What am I missing?

[Deleted account 230818001]

Bit too general a question tbh but I’ve recently acquired a ‘64 1190 Adventure.

Someone kindly gave me a pannier set and I’ve purchased a matching top box from eBay.

All three locks are now coded to the ignition key but…

I’ve got this.. and this

What part/ adapter do I need?

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

I’ve also got these…

Which don’t seem to match, again, does anyone have any idea which pannier hangers I need?

Unless I’m just not understanding how they actually attach??

 

[timeandtide]

I have an 1190 (but no panniers)
I’m pretty sure they just hang on those frames - looking at the shape of the frame they can only go one way round.
HTH

The pannier you’re showing is clearly the exhaust side.

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

You're missing the plastic retainer plate that goes between the metal plate & top box

 

[wilbjr21]

You're missing the plastic retainer plate that goes between the metal plate & top box

I agree with Nice 'n' Fat Alex.

 

[Neil W]

This any good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTo8dm2gH8U

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

I have an 1190 (but no panniers)
I’m pretty sure they just hang on those frames - looking at the shape of the frame they can only go one way round.
HTH

The pannier you’re showing is clearly the exhaust side.

Yeah, the shape looks right but I can’t get the pannier to fit on… almost right but not quite.

A previous owner has obviously farkled then de-farkled the bike, I’m wondering if the hanger is supposed to have spacers behind it?

 

[Neil W]

Yeah, the shape looks right but I can’t get the pannier to fit on… almost right but not quite.

A previous owner has obviously farkled then de-farkled the bike, I’m wondering if the hanger is supposed to have spacers behind it?

Give me 5 minutes and I will check

 

[Neil W]

Top brackets do not have spacers as such, they have moulded in bosses on the back of them that space the inner edge of the bracket 18mm out from the frame mounting points

 

[Neil W]

Are the spacers in the lower fittings that mount onto the footrest hangars so they line up correctly ?

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

You're missing the plastic retainer plate that goes between the metal plate & top box

I agree with Nice 'n' Fat Alex.

Thanks guys, I’ve managed to find a picture of the missing adapter plate, should be able to find one now

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

Give me 5 minutes and I will check

Top brackets do not have spacers as such, they have moulded in bosses on the back of them that space the inner edge of the bracket 18mm out from the frame mounting points

Are the spacers in the lower fittings that mount onto the footrest hangars so they line up correctly ?

Many thanks for checking, I’ll take a look ASAP

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

This any good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTo8dm2gH8U

Thanks Bob.

I’ll give it another go when I can, but that is what I was attempting anyway and I couldn’t get the mounts to fit together. I’ll remove the bike fitting and see if I can match them freehand.

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

This any good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTo8dm2gH8U

Thanks, I’ve watched that repeatedly since you posted it but for some reason I’m still no further ahead. I just can’t for the life of me get the pannier to sit flat on the bracket and so I can’t slide it forward.

Problem is, I’m trying to sort it out in half hour snatches but will have to find the time to thoroughly investigate. Something just doesn’t seem right though and I’m having the same issue on both sides???

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

BY Jove!!

I discovered the problem with the panniers and mounting!

I should’ve known as I’ve encountered the same issue many times, it’s….. me

I was simply being too gentle, the trick appears to be to line everything up and thump it towards the bike, then thump it forwards

I did struggle to take it off again mind

Now I’ll scour eBay for a floating top case mount with fittings and I’m sorted.


Many, many thanks to you all for the benefit of your knowledge.

 

[wilbjr21]

I love a happy ending

 

[walkingpictures]

Great result Alex.......now chill out and get those dogs out for a walk...

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

I love a happy ending ��������

Great result Alex.......now chill out and get those dogs out for a walk...

I’m glad you find me so entertaining

 

[jaca2865]

You're missing the plastic retainer plate that goes between the metal plate & top box

agreed

 

[Deleted account 230818001]

agreed

Yup, managed to source one on eBay.

It seems that the “floating plate” and its fixings are only available as a package when buying the top box and certain parts are not available individually/ separately.

The top box fixings and plate are designed to allow the box to move slightly in order to avoid a speed wobble. Luckily I’ve also managed to find some on eBay.

As for my struggle with the panniers, apparently there are spacers and longer retaining bolts for the standard rear rack which create more space to align the panniers with their mounting fixtures on the bike, luckily these are still available.