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jimbogs1200
30-03-09, 09:16
I spoke to BMW this morning about the antenna ring failure issue... They told me that my bike (06 model) should have been replaced already under a 'replacement scheme' that has been running for a while. Was there a 'recall', but they didn't call it a recall?
Is this correct info?

herrdirektor
30-03-09, 13:07
Not a recall to my knowledge, but a swap. Usually done during your regular maintenance sessions at your dealer. Ask your dealer for a check into his online system to see if your antenna needs replacement. My 2008GSA ews ring antenna is also being swapped today.

jimbogs1200
30-03-09, 13:10
Thanks, I plan to ask for a print out of all the 'swap/recalls' when I go to the dealer.... I think BMW use the term 'Customer Service Iniatives'.......

SonicTheHedgehog
30-03-09, 13:12
The phrase "Repair Campaign" may also be appropriate...

jimbogs1200
30-03-09, 13:16
Thanks for that, I couldn't remember, but that's the one they used this morning when I spoke to them.....

herrdirektor
30-03-09, 13:17
Something like that. I just went up to my dealer and the printout I got had everything stated:

1.Software update: done (March 2008)
2.EWS antenna: still open
3.Brake line replacement: still open

Nothing gave me any issues before any update, swap, recall or customer initiative. What I did notice was a more accurate fuel gauge and a more eagerly running engine after the software update. The EWS never failed me as the brakes.

Finally I have reached the milestone of 10k km's, so I brought the Majestic in for service last Saturday for a Full Monty, including swapping the horn for a Stebel Magnum.
:D

jimbogs1200
30-03-09, 13:21
I know about #2....
!s #1 the pinking issue at 4k revs, and a new software map sorts out the prob?
But, what is #3 about?

1.Software update: done (March 2008)
2.EWS antenna: still open
3.Brake line replacement: still open

herrdirektor
30-03-09, 14:00
Was discussed here.

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166098&highlight=%22brake+lines%22

elevensies
30-03-09, 14:34
:jes

antenna ring fault













the future is bright

wilbjr21
30-03-09, 19:17
:jes

antenna ring fault

the future is bright

:confused::confused:

jimbogs1200
30-03-09, 19:43
+1 :confused:

stardazed
30-03-09, 20:48
i dont think those 11's have them do they!

jimbogs1200
31-03-09, 08:39
I don't think the 11s have it, but I have a 1200...

jimbogs1200
02-04-09, 12:16
Coopers have told me that there was no recall for the antenna ring fault on the 06 1200gs.... I wonder if this is semantics? has the 06 been known to have this failure??

John Armstrong
02-04-09, 12:37
There may have been a campaign to replace them. Try searching on antenna in this area (1200 GS) for an appreciation on the number of problems.

jimbogs1200
02-04-09, 13:49
I have spent many pleasant hours reading here trying to understand the problems of the 12s....
What I can't get to the bottom of is whether all 12s have the fpc and antenna problem or not!! Also, if there was a campaign for all 12s for the antenna, why mine has not been replaced?

John Armstrong
02-04-09, 14:17
Pre a certain build date the 1200 didn't have an imobiliser but did / does have the FPC. My 54 reg 1200GS didn't have an imobiliser and therefore didn't have the dreaded antenna.

If you have a fat chunky key, then it's likely you have an antenna, and if it becomes unhappy, the dreaded EWS will show on the RID prior to you hoping to start the engine.

jimbogs1200
02-04-09, 15:05
John, thanks for that...
My bike does have 'EWS' and the shape of an engine on the display as it i going thru its checks... I have an April 06 bike.

garyten
02-04-09, 22:09
My May 06 GS 1200 was supposed be changed under the recall / campaign for the ring antenna, but on the day i arrived last year, they checked again and informed me that it was to old for the range of chassis numbers. ( The list was Revised by BMW at some point)

I think from memory, they said it only effected very late 06 bikes up to about mid 08 bikes.

wilbjr21
02-04-09, 23:04
ALL R1200GS' have a ring antenna. It reads the key chip and the ECU will allow the engine to start if the key is registered. The latest part number ends in 247.

ALL R1200 GS' have a FPC - the latest is black in colour.

John Armstrong
03-04-09, 06:58
I was convinced that my early 1200GS didn't have the imobiliser, but this parts fiche seems to say I did http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=47824 :confused:

Paul Wakefield
03-04-09, 07:05
Wilbjr21 is quite right - all 1200s have ring antenna and FPC.

Latest antenna seems to have solved problem.

Jury is still out on latest fpc.

jimbogs1200
03-04-09, 08:25
I have just had the new FPC fitted.. fingers crossed!!

But how do I tell if I need a new ring antenna; the dealer tells me "it is not one of the bikes affected"

Wapping
03-04-09, 09:34
I have just had the new FPC fitted.. fingers crossed!!

But how do I tell if I need a new ring antenna; the dealer tells me "it is not one of the bikes affected"


You will know when the bike does not start on the ignition, total silence and 'EWS' flashes on the instruments.... before that moment, you don't.

jimbogs1200
03-04-09, 10:18
You will know when the bike does not start on the ignition, total silence and 'EWS' flashes on the instruments.... before that moment, you don't.

That's what i was afraid of......:eek:

wilbjr21
03-04-09, 15:34
That's what i was afraid of......:eek:

Here - read this - http://www.hexcode.co.za/techinfo/ews.

Just get yourself a spare.

Some people don't approve of carrying spares "premium price paid for premium product - so why should I" etc.

jimbogs1200
03-04-09, 16:25
I know the 'new' antenna # ends in 247; but where do I locate the number to check it?

Funners
03-04-09, 18:15
:) on the back of the square box bit under the ign (Screen side) where the wires disappear there a long number ending in (hopefully) 247

jimbogs1200
03-04-09, 18:32
Cheers Funners.. I will have a look in daylight...

Reaper
04-04-09, 07:15
Yes mine has been done even though my 07 model was supposed to have the latest ring antenna when I bought the bike lat year.

Southport Superbikes letter said "A BMW quality service enhancement is over due."

Ring antenna was done.
Rear brake lines were done.
Software update was done (think this has affected the fuel consumption a little).

I asked if this was a recall and they said no as there were no safety issues involved, just preventative mesures.

jimbogs1200
04-04-09, 08:25
I can't see a number anywhere!!!!! unless it is too small to be seen with the 'naked' eye!;)

Funners
04-04-09, 10:23
Jim,
pic here of the ant ring (off the bike obviously !) the ring part goes round the Ign barrel the box bit is pointing towards the fromt wheel......

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i125/Funners/BMW%20GS%20Ant%20Ring/BMWAntRIng001.jpg

the writing is on the rear of the box, below the level of the top yoke

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i125/Funners/BMW%20GS%20Ant%20Ring/BMWAntRIng002.jpg

jimbogs1200
04-04-09, 11:43
Cheers mate.. I will get a magnifying glass....;)

Just checked....mine ends in 272...........oh bum......

Mike Tee
15-04-09, 09:06
Sorry if this has been asked before but does anyone know just how to remove the EWS Housing for Antenna replacement. Its the two funny fasteners accessed from underneath that are the problem. I haven't seen anything like them before. Thanks.

Andy_E
15-04-09, 09:13
They're security screws (which makes sense really). The only posts I've seen to refer to drilling them out, but a forum search for security screws might reveal an easier method.