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Devon
11-10-13, 10:20
Just adding to the new section at the moment.


This winter's project is a Triumph Twenty one that has been stood for the best part of 18 years.

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The bike has scrubbed up very well but the pictures flatter the paint and wheels. I will probably strip the top end of the engine to check everything is OK.

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ChrisJF
11-10-13, 10:30
I will probably strip the top end of the engine to check everything is OK.

only the top end ? :augie :D:D:D

Looking forward to the reports :thumb2

Packer
11-10-13, 12:19
The rare tinware looks good. Twenty One? That's the 350cc isn't it?

Devon
11-10-13, 16:11
The rare tinware looks good. Twenty One? That's the 350cc isn't it?

Yes, it's a 350cc which should bimble along at 55/60mph no problem when it's running right.
The bike is in OK condition but the wheels have corrosion in places. The tinware is all there (which is important because it's hard to find now) and also OK but several blisters and rust here and there.
It shouldn't cost a fortune to make the bike nice.

Devon
01-11-13, 22:23
Another 6 month building job disappeared up its arse this week :mad: :( The second time it has happened after the first job got put back late in the summer so I might have a bit of time to work on the bike over the next month or two.

Soooo.......... I have made a start :)

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I took the seat, tank and bathtub rear fairing off.

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They are not too bad condition but new paint will set them off and the fuel tank needs cleaning and sealing inside.

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Exhaust, carb and more bits off.

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Nearly ready to lift the engine out.

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Devon
01-11-13, 22:25
Engine removed :)

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The engine isn't heavy but it was a little awkward lifting it out the frame; I find putting you tongue out helps :D
The engine will be much easier to work on and clean on a bench. I will strip the top end and check the head and valves.
That's enough for one day.

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Timolgra
02-11-13, 08:11
Nice workshop! :)

Johno23
02-11-13, 10:47
Why can't I see any of the pics:blast just get a little logo of some sort:nenau
this is happening a lot now since the new site came on. any ideas??

Mike's on the K1100R thread are all ok though.......

zoot
02-11-13, 10:58
fully expected to see the engine lifted out on to the sofa well impressed

Smug
02-11-13, 17:38
You don't need a hugger with that bath tub back end.:aidan

Devon
02-11-13, 19:13
Nice workshop! :)

Thank's Tim. I try to keep it tidy :D

Devon
08-11-13, 17:25
Well that's the easy bit done :)

Devon
06-12-13, 20:05
Got a bit more done, the fuel tank was cleaned out with acid and then sealed with a special paint (POR15). All the tin ware has now been taken over to be painted. The photos flatter the condition of the panels and paint so there is quite a lot of work to do. The wheels have been sent off to be rebuilt as well.

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I am going to polish the engine cases and strip the top end so the head can be cleaned and the barrels painted.

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The engine looks good and it looks like it was running for several miles and not been apart before it was put away.

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Now the head and barrels can be stripped ready to clean and paint.

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The frame should be back next week so I will try to get the engine back together pretty quickly so it can go back in the frame sooner rather then later.

Spectre
06-12-13, 21:33
Very nice.... Good to see you have the Bathtub panels. My Dad will be following this with interest.

Micky
06-12-13, 21:38
Good one Devon :thumb

Keep it going ... lovely to see

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Dellis
06-12-13, 22:04
350 Triumphs are nice little bikes. I had a Tiger 90 that belonged to my sister who was killed while on her bike by a drunk driver. Every time I rode it I'm not ashamed to say it brought me to rears and it ended up in the back of my workshop. Anyway I decided that it hurt me too much to ride it so decided to sell the bike, it hadn't run for ten years, I freed the clutch off, turned the petrol on (the ten year old juice) and bugger me it fired first kick and started second! Here's a vid of me riding it down the drive the very same day (the rattling sound is the cattle grid).

Dave

http://youtu.be/E0OjT2CFVXU

Micky
06-12-13, 22:46
350 Triumphs are nice little bikes. I had a Tiger 90 that belonged to my sister who was killed while on her bike by a drunk driver. Every time I rode it I'm not ashamed to say it brought me to rears and it ended up in the back of my workshop. Anyway I decided that it hurt me too much to ride it so decided to sell the bike, it hadn't run for ten years, I freed the clutch off, turned the petrol on (the ten year old juice) and bugger me it fired first kick and started second! Here's a vid of me riding it down the drive the very same day (the rattling sound is the cattle grid).

Dave


So sorry to hear that Dave ....

How long ago?

The Tiger 90 was the sporting version 350 ... lovely bike's indeed.

1965/1966 I was a copper at Hoyland, Barnsley, and one of the other lads had a Tiger 90, I had the BSA A65 Lightning. We often had to go to Barnsley Magistrates Court to give evidence, and would take it in turn. Sometime he on the back of my BSA and sometimes me on the pillion of his Tiger :rob

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Devon
07-12-13, 07:49
350 Triumphs are nice little bikes. I had a Tiger 90 that belonged to my sister who was killed while on her bike by a drunk driver. Every time I rode it I'm not ashamed to say it brought me to rears and it ended up in the back of my workshop. Anyway I decided that it hurt me too much to ride it so decided to sell the bike, it hadn't run for ten years, I freed the clutch off, turned the petrol on (the ten year old juice) and bugger me it fired first kick and started second! Here's a vid of me riding it down the drive the very same day (the rattling sound is the cattle grid).

Dave

http://youtu.be/E0OjT2CFVXU


That is sad. I wouldn't not be able to own a bike with such bad memories Dave, I can understand why you sold it.

These old M/Cs can get a lot of emotional attachment as they travel through people's lives. Sarah, the lady who sold the Triumph to me, was given the Twentyone by her bike mad Father 20 yrs ago and he passed away at a young age suddenly a year or so later. Eventually when she decided to sell the Triumph on because it was stood and starting to deteriorate, it was important to her the bike stayed locally and she hoped the bike would be restored to its former glory. She was saddened to sell the bike but looks forward to seeing it about these parts on the road again.
About three weeks ago I was at a local bike meet and an old girl in the cafe was telling biker Yvonne (who knows me) about the first ever bike her deceased husband bought in 1959 from Godfrey Samsons in Bideford, it was a blue Triumph and she still remembered the reg number; 621 BOD and she would love to know where the bike was now. The old biddy nearly fell off her chair when Yvonne told her that I had recently bought the bike to restore and I was sat having a coffee on another table :D She came over and told me all about her husband and the bike, she also has some pictures of the bike from when it was new. Funny how these things happen sometimes.

Devon
26-12-13, 19:11
All the frame parts came back from the powder coaters and the head and barrels were also ready to collect. I am happy to pass a lot of the painting and blasting over to professionals as they do a better job then I could ever hope to.

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My engineering mate Mike fitted the swinging arm as the bush is a tight fit and Mike has the tools to do the job rather then me attempt it and mess it up. Then it's just a case of starting to put the parts back together.

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I polished the engine casings but not too much.

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Then fitted the bottom half of the engine and gearbox back into the frame. Mike will give me a hand to fit the barrels and head as it's a fiddly job and easier with two people. I will make a list of new nuts and bolts later and just change the ones that are a bit rusty/worn.

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That's it for today :)

Micky
26-12-13, 21:05
That's it for today :)

What a lovely way to spend Boxing Day :thumb

:beerjug:

Voyager
27-12-13, 11:51
That's a nice job, I'm looking forward to seeing it progress.

It gives me inspiration to get on with my project - a 'basket case' 1930/31 P&M Panther - but at the moment I'm spending time on the Internet researching the history & looking for parts. Its also freezing out in the workshop :augie .

I must 'man-up' and get on with it instead of eating mince pies :D.

Keep up the good work Devon :thumb :thumb .

Bob.

Devon
07-01-14, 19:26
About three weeks ago I was at a local bike meet and a Woman in the cafe was telling biker Yvonne (who knows me) about the first ever bike her deceased husband bought in 1959 from Godfrey Samsons in Bideford, it was a blue Triumph and she still remembered the reg number; 621 BOD and she would love to know where the bike was now. She nearly fell off her chair when Yvonne told her that I had recently bought the bike to restore and I was sat having a coffee on another table :D She came over and told me all about her husband and the bike, she also has some pictures of the bike from when it was new. Funny how these things happen sometimes.

Nothing to do with tidying the bike up but Liz emailed some pictures of her late husband Pete, along with some details:

Hi Andy, some pics of my 'late' Pete with his Triumph 21 he bought new from Godfrey Sampson in summer 1959.
I first met met Pete in spring 1965, at the time I had my 150 lambretta, me and friends used to meet at what was Divitos' coffee bar at Sticklepath ( now the Pelican fish restaurant ), on Sunday evenings some '' orrible rocker types '' would take over 'our' café, little did I know then that I would end up marrying one of them, turned out to be Pete. His 21 by then had the half fairing and looked good. In early 1967 he p/x it at Godfrey's for a new Triumph Thunderbird, black and chrome, reg. GDV 32D, we saw it for a few years in some bike shows, a lovely bike. We married in 1968 and he sold the bike to ''buy a 3 piece suite'', AAAARRH !!
Good luck with the 21, it's nice to know the bike is still cared for.

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Micky
07-01-14, 19:33
Wonderful ...

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Edward
07-01-14, 20:15
I'd like that knee knocker AJS 650 CSR.

mcinlb
08-01-14, 09:26
Looking at these pics of the 60s , motorcycling seemed to be a lot simpler then. Now the clothing / boots / gloves and bikes are a lot more 'technical'.....

Nice 'n' Fat
08-01-14, 09:30
I love those 'Wild One' export bars :thumb2

Devon
20-01-14, 21:55
I sent some of the nuts and bolts off to be Zinc coated and they have come up really well. I used a smooth file to tidy the heads on some of them up before they went off.

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The wheels came back form the local wheel man last week :cool:

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My mate finished painting the tinware :cool: :cool:

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And Mike came over and we put the top end of the engine back together.

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Now I have many of the bits back I hope to find the time to get a load more done. :)

David Lee
21-01-14, 00:05
That's going to look lovely,

Great job

paramart
30-01-14, 20:05
brill thread love triumphs, i had the 500 version of this engine but used it to build a chopper not a purist by the way, but i kept the dizzy as it looked and worked great, used a 350 head hand scraped to fit under the watchfull eye of mick at two wheels in farnborough, with flat top pistons, only thing i found was the crank has a bronze bush that is prone to wearing, after 2 bushes i took it to have the crank ground and a needle bearing fitted, it fixed it and i was told they can crack by the bush housing, i don,t know if the 350 wears as quick, nice to see a bit of history in the photo,s well done:clap:clap:clap

Devon
18-02-14, 17:13
Haven't done much lately but now handlebars, forks, shocks and wheels are fitted it's starting to look like a M/C again :)

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Paul Rochdale
18-02-14, 18:06
I once owned a 1959 Triumph 5TA Speed Twin, fairly non-standard without it's bath tub. I rode her to Northern Ireland from Kent once as saw my first (indicated) ton. She leaked a lot after that run. I sold her for peanuts as you did in those day but then I only paid about £100 for her. The big ends failed once whilst I was home on leave so Cyril Medgett (of M&M Motorcycles at West Malling) rebuilt the engine in double quick time so I could get back to my unit. It was never particularly oil tight. She was the last bike I could get my heals down on the ground ;-)

Timolgra
18-02-14, 18:27
So sorry to hear that Dave ....

How long ago?

The Tiger 90 was the sporting version 350 ... lovely bike's indeed.

1965/1966 I was a copper at Hoyland, Barnsley, and one of the other lads had a Tiger 90, I had the BSA A65 Lightning. We often had to go to Barnsley Magistrates Court to give evidence, and would take it in turn. Sometime he on the back of my BSA and sometimes me on the pillion of his Tiger :rob

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And here's Micky on his .....no wonder you rave about the XC :D
http://www.thebadgerslair.com/images/History/county/Triumph%20Twenty-one%20833%20DCE%20Cambs%20Linton.jpg

Good job Andy, look forward to seeing it complete:beerjug:

Paul Rochdale
11-04-14, 07:41
I'd like that knee knocker AJS 650 CSR.

AJS CSR = Coffee Shop Racer