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wrinkleyowlie
10-09-16, 20:21
Welcome to the light medium restoration of my 2008 Guzzi 1200 sport 2V
The bike has 24000mls and has been serviced on the button every year, but sadly has spent it's life living outside, and by the previous owners admission has rarely been cleaned.
It's not in bad condition but many of the fastenings are showing signs of neglect, the main engine block is rough in places, rear shock is in poor condition, although does not appear to be leaking.Front forks need painting as do the wheels. Swinging arm gaiter is split in several places, and it generally needs a deep clean and some TLC.

Plan is...Upgrade the front fork springs and rear shock with Hyperpro items.

Clean and repaint parts of the engine....main block...alternator cover...sump.

Check and clean or replace all bearings.

Replace swing arm gaiter

Replace exhaust for hand built high level item.

Repaint wheels and front forks black...satin or gloss, not decided yet

Replace fastenings for stainless items where possible.

Repaint the bike in Italian flag colours (red white green ) not decided on the scheme yet, but possibly similar to the sport corsa

sceme.


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Already a lot of bits come off

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Split gaiter.. thought this would be as good a place to start as any. Started to remove the swing arm which has to be done to replace the gaiter... Turned out to be a b*****d of a job as the near side roller bearing was seized solid to the swing arm pin which prevented it from being removed. I couldn't get at the pin with the rear shock in place which in turn wouldn't come out with the swing arm in place. eventually managed to gut it all out with a small grinder. When I say the pin was seized, it was solid.

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Nasty and unsightly dent in the oil cooler, but it works OK. I'll have to see how the budget goes before I decide to replace it, paint it, or get some sort of cover.

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Some attention needed to clean the main block up..luckily it's a fairly rough cast and I've had a little experiment with cleaning a bit and hand painting...looks good. Fortunately the paint on the gear box and swing arm need no attention.

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Engine cleaned and degreased. Dremmel out next. I'll be removing the alternator housing and sump to paint them. Might do them black along with the rocker covers.

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Remains of the swing arm bolt. had to order a new one which will come from Italy. It will be here in 5 days...yeah right.
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Although there are tons of little bits and pieces that need doing, much of the bike, such as the frame, are in great condition.

I made a wooden trolly on castors for the bike to stand on whilst it's without wheels (this could be some considerable time) very easy to push around the workshop. My initial budget of 1500 pounds which was increased to 2k is already looking doubtful.

Wish me luck....It's my first attempt at renovation since my "Padget YDS 3" back in..oh when was it, 1973 ?

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Redsprocket
16-09-16, 19:37
Looking forward to the results and how you get on! :thumb2

'JH'
16-09-16, 20:12
Yep, following with interest too. These type of posts are the best IMO, love seeing other people's handy work and restos .......

:popcorn

jonnie comet
18-10-16, 15:46
Just caught up with this......How's it going ??......:)

Ogmios
18-10-16, 15:59
:popcorn:
:thumb2

redrick
18-10-16, 15:59
Watching with interest Steve

Now come on get on with it man

wreck diver
18-10-16, 16:33
I love these threads,keep up the good work.

wrinkleyowlie
21-10-16, 19:12
Engine all painted...Silver, block and barrels...satin black, rocker covers, sump, alternator cover. waiting on the alternator cover gasket to get it all back together.

Hyperpro rear shock and front springs ordered... 5 weeks !

Wheels and front forks gone for paint... gloss black. (Took around 3hrs to get the rear disc off. Some minor damage but hopefully reusable)

Should I paint the swing arm and final drive satin black whilst they're off ??

Pics as soon as the wheels and forks come back.

Not cheap this restoration lark is it :eek: good though :thumb2

wrinkleyowlie
03-12-16, 13:57
Few more pics. Sorry they're in the wrong order, but sure you'll get the jist.



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New oil cooler and pipes around £370 so straightened the original and repainted, cleaned up the pipes best I could.


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rear wheel with a fresh a fresh coat of gloss black. much nicer than the original mucky blue colour.

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had the head covers powder coated, painted sump and alternator cover.

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Front wheel all cleaned up. Painted gloss black, new disc bolts.


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Fork lowers painted gloss black, original and hyperpro springs stood next to them. No, I haven't painted the sliders
they're black chrome (original)

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Just a little reminder.

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Back end all rebuild.

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Back end all ready to go back together. Which was the catalyst for all this work in the first place.

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Front brake callipers, cleaned up really well. Just cleaned and all bolts replaced.

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Sorry it's all a bit scrambled, but I'm a bit of a techno numpty and have to rely on Joanne to put the pics up for me.

Few more jobs to do, just on with repainting the brake and clutch reservoirs and the mirror stems ( still considering bar end mirrors)

All panels have gone off for paint. I finally settled on a variation of the Gulf sport colour scheme.

Had a lucky escape when I'd gone back into the workshop after a couple of days. I'd removed the axle stands and the bike was sat on a lift that I have and jacked up on the sump. Front forks and wheel back in but not the rear wheel. The lift had slowly lowered under the weight of the bike to the point where it was not supporting the bike at all. I had a piece of wood under the back end. Fortunately I has just put the side stand back on and it was in the down position and had stopped the bike from completely tipping on it's side. Lesson learned. Sorry forgot to take a pick in my panic to get it all straightened up.

I'm loving doing this...it's not going to be my last.

scotboxer
03-12-16, 14:05
Looking very nice. Had a similar issue with my RT but used an old tow rope over a garage roof beam and attached to the bar ends. Not much use if the forks and bars are not on the bike though!

brut33
03-12-16, 14:19
Looking good.:thumb2
I had a 1200 Norge with the same 2 valve engine. Pleanty of grunt and the most planted bike I've ridden when pushing it on long straights and motorways.
Didn't give me a spot of bother, very durable and some say it's better built than the replacement 8 valver.
It's one of the few bikes I've missed and would have another when room allows.
I like the colour scheme your doing as well.

wrinkleyowlie
03-12-16, 14:48
Looking good.:thumb2
I had a 1200 Norge with the same 2 valve engine. Pleanty of grunt and the most planted bike I've ridden when pushing it on long straights and motorways.
Didn't give me a spot of bother, very durable and some say it's better built than the replacement 8 valver.
It's one of the few bikes I've missed and would have another when room allows.
I like the colour scheme your doing as well.

I believe some of the early 8 valve bikes had problems with the cam followers which where later replaced with a roller version.

I had a new 2014 Stelvio, which I really really liked, but it just lacked a bit of top end grunt when fully loaded with camping gear. I swapped it for a 2015 Explorer, which is a great bike but I missed the Stelvio, in particular that lovely motor, so decided to get a sport which would compliment the Explorer. After riding it for a couple of months decided I liked it enough to chuck a few quid at it, so here we are.

jonnie comet
03-12-16, 17:03
Looking good Sir......Please keep it coming.....:thumb2

Redsprocket
03-12-16, 17:34
Looking good :thumb2

Billd
04-12-16, 09:53
I really Like what your doing, you show great attention to detail. I owned a MG Stelvio in the past and really liked it so ave. bit of an affinity for Moto Guzzis..................more please!

timeandtide
04-12-16, 10:17
Cracking job sir . . . could be tempted by a Guzzi:bounce1

AndyB_11
04-12-16, 13:45
For some unknown reason as I've got older I've found myself wanting an old Guzzi California but I know I'm not gay so I can't understand it :nenau

I've never owned a Guzzi and I really should have one at some point and while I'd always thought I'd buy a MKI Le Mans one day I know I've missed that boat because the riding position would kill me after 50 miles.

wrinkleyowlie
04-12-16, 14:10
The sport, which really isn't sporty in anyway, is only my second Guzzi. Shortly after swapping my Stelvio for an Explorer I knew it wouldn't be long before I had another Guzzi, albeit as a second bike.

They really do have a way of getting under your skin. Ride them on the torque and they are very rewarding to ride and can cover ground fairly quickly, try and push them and they can become a little unforgiving, well maybe not unforgiving, but not at their best.

wrinkleyowlie
20-12-16, 21:29
Levers were very rough. Stripped of lacquer and polished. come up very nice.

Mirror stems. brake and clutch reservoirs stripped and repainted.

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Almost back to a rolling chassis

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Final colour scheme decided. Should all be done by mid Jan.

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bakerlonglegs
21-12-16, 22:10
Hi Mr 'Owlie,
Great resto! What paint did you use for the mirror stems & reservoirs?

Rushy
22-12-16, 00:32
Aye up Steve , I was looking at this thread at th weekend wondering when an update was coming 👍

Looking forward to seeing the paint :bounce1

wrinkleyowlie
22-12-16, 07:05
Hi Mr 'Owlie,
Great resto! What paint did you use for the mirror stems & reservoirs?

Good ole Hammerite satin smooth

Fluffy Bridges
22-12-16, 16:04
What Ho, Steve!

Glad to see another Guzz on the mend.

Is this going to be "Goomah 2"? (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/382855-Tearing-The-Mistress-s-clothes-off-to-give-her-a-good-seeing-to!) Post 5.

Paint scheme is going to be marvellous. Many memories of the Gulf racing days - i went to school with John Wyer's daughter Pia. Long time ago…..

Fluff.

bakerlonglegs
22-12-16, 20:49
Good ole Hammerite satin smooth

Thanks very much! :)

wrinkleyowlie
22-12-16, 21:26
What Ho, Steve!

Glad to see another Guzz on the mend.

Is this going to be "Goomah 2"? (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/382855-Tearing-The-Mistress-s-clothes-off-to-give-her-a-good-seeing-to!) Post 5.

Paint scheme is going to be marvellous. Many memories of the Gulf racing days - i went to school with John Wyer's daughter Pia. Long time ago…..

Fluff.

Definitely Goomah 2

Tank badges have been removed and the indentations filled in. Moto Guzzi to be painted on in the Orange, outlined with black and the Eagle above.

Hopefully should all be painted by around 3rd week in Jan.

wrinkleyowlie
23-12-16, 15:41
Don't know where the pics have vanished to :nenau

Rushy
21-01-17, 12:59
Any updates ?

wrinkleyowlie
22-01-17, 16:19
Any updates ?

Bikes all fully rebuilt, apart from the body work which is still at the painters. I spoke to him yesterday and he's promised me no later than 10th feb.

I'll try to get a few pics of the completed rolling chassis up. I'm off for a 'Cardiac Ablation' in the morning so it might be a few days before I get the chance.

wrinkleyowlie
18-02-17, 07:29
Well, finally got a call from the painter saying everything is ready to pick up. Get to his workshop and all the bits are laid out on a bench and looking fantastic.

As I cast my eye across everything, something strikes me as not being right. Then I see it, the Moto Guzzi emblem on the tank, which is painted on, is the wrong way round i.e. the eagle is below the Moto Guzzi wording rather than above it. (sorry didn't have anything with me to take a pic)

I actually think it looks OK, but at the end of the day it's not right. So, I've got 3 days to wrestle with my dilemma. Do I leave it as it is, or do I ask him to do it right ?

steve hughes
18-02-17, 08:00
You saw it straight away as will others. How many times do you fancy having thie same conversation. Explain to the painter your concerns and agree a solution to get it right. Just my view

jonnie comet
18-02-17, 12:01
You will NEVER live with it....It's got to be re-done.....I'm GUESSING that you know that....:(

wrinkleyowlie
23-02-17, 17:12
There are a few pics of the finished bike on Facebook. If you type PaintzFiction into Google it will give you a link to the facebook site.

Sorry I don't know how to put in a link. I'll get some better pics up soon as it stops raining.

steve hughes
23-02-17, 18:16
Here you go

Magwa
14-03-17, 17:09
Cool:cool:

Ash
23-03-17, 20:10
Enjoyed this report & piccies Steve.....
Can't beat a Guzzi...

Magwa
13-09-17, 16:28
As she looks today.....http://tm-img.com/images/2017/09/04/20170703_145211.jpg
Love the looks but I've barely used it since purchase.