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fatnfast
07-01-18, 14:00
I just couldn't resist this stunning MZ ES150/1. Totally original and still sporting it's original? Pnumat front tyre, bicycle pump, tool kit and dealers sticker with a whopping 11k miles from new.
Free tax and no MOTs from March :)
It runs well so will be just a proper recommissioning, oils, tubes tyres etc.
And its just so good looking.....

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180107/wi73abqi.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Robbo1200ADV
07-01-18, 14:19
I just couldn't resist this stunning MZ ES150/1. Totally original and still sporting it's original? Pnumat front tyre, bicycle pump, tool kit and dealers sticker with a whopping 11k miles from new.
Free tax and no MOTs from March :)
It runs well so will be just a proper recommissioning, oils, tubes tyres etc.
And its just so good looking.....

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180107/wi73abqi.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

They have a charm don’t they. My first bike after my Mobylette was a voskhod 175, used to dream of an MZ 250

Tunneruk
07-01-18, 16:14
I bloody like that!!

Micky
07-01-18, 16:23
Lovely :thumb

:beerjug:

Outtomunch
07-01-18, 16:27
Beautiful looking bikes ~ I'm very jealous!

Andres

tuftywhite
07-01-18, 20:29
Great looking bike.

Although, that headlight looks like it should double up as a slide projector!

Nick Marshall
07-01-18, 20:33
Nice. In an odd sort of way.

fatnfast
07-01-18, 20:35
Thanks all, just ordered tyres, tubes, oils, points plug etc. Still had change from £100 :D
I was inspired to find one by a pals 150, although I'll keep this one in stock trim. Strangely enough our engine numbers differ by just 20, so it was very likely they were both made on the same day in the old DDR.
Buy one soonest Tunners, the prices are starting to rise :thumb
http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180107/8emt4rgi.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Roger Chatterton
08-01-18, 16:44
My very first bike was an MZ250 Trophy - cost me around £250 brand new from Coburn and Hughes near Finsbury Park, North London. Was a good bike, but always seemed to have a problem with a misfire around 65 mph , and the metal castings were pretty crap- kick start lever snapped clean pff!Anyhow, it managed to get me and my then Swedish girlfriend to Malmo and back.I wouldn't go so far as to say they were ever a great bike, but it was certainly better than travelling on the tube from Ealing Broadway to Mayfair each day; that's what got me started on motorbikes really, as a better way to travel to work each day! Anyhow Tufty - have fun on the MZ....I must admit that I have a very soft spot for them.

kurienp
08-01-18, 16:54
Beautiful!

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steve hughes
08-01-18, 18:10
Lovely creme and blue colour scheme. I like the bar end indicators and the cheeky overhang of the exhaust.

Always nice to see a nice condition original bike and not a refurbished queen.

Steve

Ash
08-01-18, 18:43
I bloody like that!!


Nice. In an odd sort of way.

Yum yum.. " in an odd sort of way " too

:thumb

flatdog
08-01-18, 20:28
OMG….beauty is definately in the beholders eye.:eek:

:barf:barf:barf:barf:barf

Saw a couple last weekend at Newark show grounds. nope, i prefer the vespa's.

dr nosh
08-01-18, 20:32
Can you take a picture of the dealers sticker please.

Is that it in the centre of the cream handlebar cover?

fatnfast
08-01-18, 22:50
Can you take a picture of the dealers sticker please.

Is that it in the centre of the cream handlebar cover?

No, that's just an MZ fitted badge.
The side panel have " ?.E.Milnes & Son Leceister "

Originally I drew a blank on Google, but you inspired me to go through the alphabet to identify the first missing initial.

It looks like it is A.E.Milnes :)

http://www.lpmcc.net/activity/event_dealers.htm

" Other dealers in the area.....were AE Milnes at the top of Belgrave Gate, (Leceister), who had some very clever people working there, Stewart Howe, who raced a Norton framed Vincent.....and Rex Caunt, who understood 2 stroke engines like no other. "

So that explains why my MZ sounds crisper than my pals :thumb, :augie

bighair
08-01-18, 23:09
Nice saw that , was in my neck of the woods , very nearly tempted
Free MOT is pre 1960 , but free Tax.

dean0n0
09-01-18, 00:21
Rex Caunt used to have a unit at Mallory.
I was talking to my mate the other week, having seen a MZ (in road trim) leading a Laverda Montjuic in the classic racing at Cadwell.
He asked me if it was a beam tester, I looked at him gone out, so he explained that the model you have reminded them of the MOT headlight beam test machine so became known to them as a Beam tester.

Majesty
09-01-18, 00:35
Rex is a lovely guy and will help anybody

dr nosh
09-01-18, 10:18
No, that's just an MZ fitted badge.
The side panel have " ?.E.Milnes & Son Leceister "

Originally I drew a blank on Google, but you inspired me to go through the alphabet to identify the first missing initial.

It looks like it is A.E.Milnes :)

http://www.lpmcc.net/activity/event_dealers.htm

" Other dealers in the area.....were AE Milnes at the top of Belgrave Gate, (Leceister), who had some very clever people working there, Stewart Howe, who raced a Norton framed Vincent.....and Rex Caunt, who understood 2 stroke engines like no other. "

So that explains why my MZ sounds crisper than my pals :thumb, :augie



Thanks for digging out that bit of history and the lpmcc link.

jonnie comet
09-01-18, 17:15
Always nice to see a nice condition original bike and not a refurbished queen.


I agree...:)

Totally restored bikes are lovely, and if a bike needs totally restoring because basically it is fked, then so be it. But it's always nice to see something that has just been ridden and left alone....wearing it's years with pride.

I love it......:thumb2

steve hughes
09-01-18, 18:07
Nice saw that , was in my neck of the woods , very nearly tempted
Free MOT is pre 1960 , but free Tax.

Keep up at the back please, 40 year rolling from next May so 1977 and earlier MOT and Tax free��

MarkShelley
09-01-18, 23:09
Probably never going do depreciate due to their design ‘uniqueness’ . Could be the inspiration for Bender of Futurama :D

fatnfast
10-01-18, 13:02
I agree...:)

Totally restored bikes are lovely, and if a bike needs totally restoring because basically it is fked, then so be it. But it's always nice to see something that has just been ridden and left alone....wearing it's years with pride.

I love it......:thumb2

Agreed, no restoration beyond cleaning and new rubber and service parts. Maybe a little rust eater under the mudguards to halt any corrosion, but that's it.

Had a reply from Rex Caunt (Racing). As already said a lovely guy who remembers selling/servicing these bikes. He said that the MZ ES150/1 was used to get the racing crank/conrod design sorted for their BSA Bantams :)

fatnfast
10-01-18, 13:05
Probably never going do depreciate due to their design ‘uniqueness’ . Could be the inspiration for Bender of Futurama :D

Is that a complement :D
New tyres are here, the recommissioning has begun.

fatnfast
10-01-18, 16:55
Front wheel came out easily, no rust on the axle at all. The original tyre took some effort to remove. It was as hard as plastic, but as an original Pneumat I think they were like this from new. Inner drum was also very clean. New tube and tyre fitted, bearings regreased, rim cleaned, ACF50 applied to the spokes and rim ready to fit.

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180110/balgjhwc.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

After cleaning off the old road crud from the underside of the mudguard I applied some rust eater, then once this had dried it was coated in ACF50.
Brake shoes etc were all in excellent condition, so just a quick clean up.

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180110/x2afsqd8.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

fatnfast
10-01-18, 17:05
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Wheel refitted and it looks just like it did before apart from the new tyre. Perfect. It was getting dark so that's it for now. In true MZ owners tradition I'm doing this all in front of the garage on the floor (but only because the garage is full off other bikes :-)). Back wheel next.

g00ner
10-01-18, 17:57
Get the kettle on’ I’m coming down for a spin :D

fatnfast
10-01-18, 18:34
Get the kettle on’ I’m coming down for a spin :D

Any time Mike :thumb2

fatnfast
13-01-18, 13:14
The rear tyre swap went without a hitch, after all the old tyre was just 26 years old :-).
Next up is the fuel system. I thought this would be straight forward as the bike started and idled well. This was the inside of the carb!

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180113/eum9va6h.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

One side of the float had filled with fuel. The pictures flatter it's condition. I'm amazed it even ran. Parts are all available, so a new float and gaskets are on the way. It was also a good excuse to finally get myself an ultrasonic cleaner, so that's on it's way as well.
In the meantime I'm draining the tank. The fuel smells bad and in the reserve position nothing flows from the tap, so a flush is in order. Depending how bad it is inside I may use POR15 sealer as I have had great results with this in the past.

jonnie comet
13-01-18, 16:55
Parts are all available, so a new float and gaskets are on the way.

....I just love that with old MZs.......:)

Fluffy Bridges
19-01-18, 15:31
Had one of those as a sprogg in '75!. Same colours.

Handled and went quite well for a 150 but unreliable as the voltage regulator was a bit iffy, but as long as the battery was charged I didn't care. Earles type front forks, push in key, all enclosed chain, cor luv-a-duck.

Still have the bar end indicators in my box of "things that might be useful" (42 years on :D). Left it with a mate called Leigh Barrett in Worcestershire - probably still there!

Fluff

Littledumptruck
19-01-18, 21:13
Just perfect for the Distinguished Gentlemans Ride :thumb2


OMG….beauty is definately in the beholders eye.:eek:

:barf:barf:barf:barf:barf

Saw a couple last weekend at Newark show grounds. nope, i prefer the vespa's.

Thought it was pretty compulsory for any bug eyed GS owners to accept unusal looking bikes as the norm........;);):D

fatnfast
20-01-18, 16:49
Carb ultrasonically cleaned and new Jets and float fitted. Just over £15 for parts. Bloody expensive these bikes!
The inside of the tank took some cleaning bit eventually all the internal rust was removed. I used POR15 to seal it and stop future rusting.

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180120/n6rfu5vg.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Bendy toy
20-01-18, 21:16
You can get a modern magdyno generator that outperforms the old system and does away with the waft about breaker points.
Brother had one on his Coffin tank ETZ 250. It really did start and go better as the spark timing was correct.

My Saxon 300 got only about 10,000 from a drive chain. Cost wasn’t an issue (5/8x3/8 plain roller chain is cheap) but it was a pain in the arse (messy) job to replace.

Scot oiler can’t be fitted to the back as the sprocket is fully enclosed in a cast case. So I fitted the drip feed to the front sprocket. And the oiler itself up by the headstock. After 17K miles the 1/2 worn chain had not been touched - no stretch - no adjustment needed. It was also less messy as I could see the oil level dropping so no need to over dose it. I believe feeding oil to the unloaded side of the chain was more effective than Scot’s usual method. And neater.
Allen’s from Nottingham offer Mikuni carb conversions. They work very well indeed. Not period of. Purse but you can keep the original packed away for posterity.

fatnfast
20-01-18, 22:43
Thanks Bendy.
The conversion from points is well known in the MZ world. Powerdynamo is the popular one but it's £250. A new set of points is £3.99. It does also replace the rest of the charging system, but apart from ageing mechanical regulators, it's a pretty good set up on it's own.
The Mikuni carb conversion is also well know, infact I did it to my ETZ250. Not cheap at £150 but it does make starting more reliable, but I wouldn't do it again. Its not available for my bike in question in this thread. Indeed, the MZ BVF carb works well enough as it is fortunately :-)
As for the chain, I'm changing mne to a premium brand. That cost £14.99 :-). I won't be doing big miles on this one. Being enclosed you really don't need a Scottoiler.

Micky
20-01-18, 22:47
Thanks Bendy.
The conversion from points is well known in the MZ world. Powerdynamo is the popular one but it's £250. A new set of points is £3.99. It does also replace the rest of the charging system, but apart from ageing mechanical regulators, it's a pretty good set up on it's own.
The Mikuni carb conversion is also well know, infact I did it to my ETZ250. Not cheap at £150 but it does make starting more reliable, but I wouldn't do it again. Its not available for my bike in question in this thread. Indeed, the MZ BVF carb works well enough as it is fortunately :-)

Totally agree :thumb

Having run MZ's for years, toured Europe on them, me, my father and my two kids .... don't fix what aint broke :D

Correctly set up you can't beat the standard set up. Always started, always run sweetly :thumb

:beerjug:

Edit ... as an aside, the standard carb does the job admirably, but my father's 125 had a persistent problem of NOT running sweetly. He tried everything. Eventually I took over the bike ... the standard carb (my dad had had it in bits several times looking for the poor running fault) on close examination, float bowl off, turned the carb upside down, the 'tunnel' leading to the air mixture screw, was rough cast. Close examination with an eye glass revealed that the alloy of the tunnel was porous, allowing air in irrespective of the air screw setting. A second hand carb soon sorted it and normal service resumed :D

Lovely bikes :thumb

:beerjug:

fatnfast
07-02-18, 00:32
Recommissioning continues with the replacement chain and a good pair of chain gaiters fitted. I was half expecting to find black and corroded wiring at the dynamo, but it is remarkably clean. Even the points are good with no pitting.
Next stage is sorting the throttle out. It's similar to the old Honda C50/70/90 types with an internal worm drive on the throttle grip. It doesn't want to spring closed; great as a simple cruise control I guess :) .

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180207/ktlpoot4.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

fatnfast
17-02-18, 20:54
Posh new regulator fitted today. All straight forward and now charging the new gel battery at a healthy and stable 7.3 volts. I had to add a piggy back crimp to suit the new regulator and on stripping back a section of old wiring was pleased to find the copper wires still shiney and like new. Not bad for 46 year old wiring :D
I also adapted the throttle to use an MZ TS250 twist grip and TS125 cable as the original worm drive throttle system was always a poor design that resisted all attempts to close on it's own when releasing the throttle.
Finally I fitted a new front brake cable, just to be on the safe side as the old one was a little worn.
She is about ready for it's first (and last as it will be MOT free from May :-) ) MOT test.

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