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wrinkleyowlie
15-02-18, 15:25
Just giving my Gen 2 Explorer a deep clean ( do it twice a year with all my bikes) and I've got to say, I genuinely believe that the Triumph build quality on the modern bikes is second to none.

Nice 'n' Fat
15-02-18, 15:30
Try telling that to the people who own the newer T120, T100, Thruxton & Bobber Bonnevilles :augie

leadfarmer
15-02-18, 15:37
Try telling that to the people who own the newer T120, T100, Thruxton & Bobber Bonnevilles :augie

Why's that ? (apart from shite suspension)

Nice 'n' Fat
15-02-18, 15:54
Corroded engine casings & fasteners

leadfarmer
15-02-18, 16:04
Corroded engine casings & fasteners

I see, Not had that on mine

Nice 'n' Fat
15-02-18, 16:08
Quite a few people posting videos on You Tube moaning about it

Mainly those that ride in shite weather

Paul S
15-02-18, 16:13
Had a brand new Tiger 800XCX for a short while - was not impressed with quality of spokes and fasteners which corroded very quickly :rob

Nice 'n' Fat
15-02-18, 16:15
The early Bonnie spokes had a terrible habit of corroding and snapping yet Triumph refused to do anything about it :blast

wrinkleyowlie
15-02-18, 17:33
Corroded engine casings & fasteners

Engine casings are polished untreated alloy. All purchases are told this. Since when did stainless fasteners start to corrode. Maybe I've been lucky but 2 winters on my Gen 1 and the best part of this winter, which has had a lot of salt on the roads, on my gen 2 and there is not a blemish to be seen anywhere.
Unlike my Stelvio, which whilst I do love, it's like the GS you've really got to keep on top of it.

Nice 'n' Fat
15-02-18, 18:31
Engine casings are polished untreated alloy. All purchases are told this

The last bit is not completely true. Not everyone is being told this, which has caused issues and complaints !

fatal
15-02-18, 18:39
Try telling that to the people who own the newer T120, T100, Thruxton & Bobber Bonnevilles :augie

Mine is OK, but then again it is covered in GT85 and hasn't been out of the garage in 8 weeks. :D

Engineer
15-02-18, 18:45
Corroded engine casings & fasteners

The fastners are are ok, just the bare polished aluminium casings and wheel rims that are especially vulnerable - that should be pretty obvious but I guess you have to spoon feed the modern biker or they whinge. My Thruxton R cases are wiped over with ACF50 even when it’s sitting unused in the garage.

Nice 'n' Fat
15-02-18, 18:56
The fastners are are ok, just the bare polished aluminium casings and wheel rims that are especially vulnerable - that should be pretty obvious but I guess you have to spoon feed the modern biker or they whinge. My Thruxton R cases are wiped over with ACF50 even when it’s sitting unused in the garage.

Out of interest. Did your dealer warn you of possible corrosion issues if you didn't keep on top of your cleaning regime?

Carlosfandango
15-02-18, 19:07
My Bonnie is now 14 years old, was used every day by the previous owner for work. It was completly shit up when I bought it - bit of TLC and everything is bright & shiny again, no rust, impressed overall, one of my previous Triumphs had fastners that rusted on sight!

Rushy
15-02-18, 19:58
Just giving my Gen 2 Explorer a deep clean ( do it twice a year with all my bikes) and I've got to say, I genuinely believe that the Triumph build quality on the modern bikes is second to none.

Nope , not as good as my 1200X Crosstourer which is significantly better than another Honda, the AT for example. Try taking the fairing panels off a VFR1200 or the 1200X and you will see what I mean.

So from my perspective I would say that yours is at least second to one rather than second to none :P

Nice 'n' Fat
15-02-18, 20:24
My Bonnie is now 14 years old, was used every day by the previous owner for work. It was completly shit up when I bought it - bit of TLC and everything is bright & shiny again, no rust, impressed overall, one of my previous Triumphs had fastners that rusted on sight!

My 02 Bonnie I never bother cleaning. Then again. It is smothered in FS365. Has rebuilt wheels with stainless spokes and decent fasteners (now) :D

https://s26.postimg.org/4kzfonv21/P9300069.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/vitcqakt5/P9300103.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/fkkn07gbd/P9300093.jpg

fatal
16-02-18, 10:57
That's a cool looking bike :thumb

fatal
16-02-18, 11:06
I'm on my third Hinckley triumph, previous were an 2000 Trophy 900 and a 2007 Tiger 1050, both of these bikes were used through winters and the finish held up really well. I washed them off regularly and sprayed them with GT85. The Trophy was previously owned by a friend in Edinburgh, this was bike was left out on the street in all weather and never covered up, when i bought it I was amazed at the lack of corrosion on it, considering it had stood unused for a couple of years only the fork stanchions needed to be replaced because of pitting, most of the fasteners were ok.

Engineer
16-02-18, 13:11
Out of interest. Did your dealer warn you of possible corrosion issues if you didn't keep on top of your cleaning regime?

Yes they did warn me last June when I bought the bike, they said that Triumph had told them to - they also said not to use abrasive cleaners on the polished cases - so I was fully informed.

restandplay
16-02-18, 13:36
Just giving my Gen 2 Explorer a deep clean ( do it twice a year with all my bikes) and I've got to say, I genuinely believe that the Triumph build quality on the modern bikes is second to none.

I would agree after owning a BMWF800GS loads of trouble. Own a Tiger 800XCc now and it is so much better.

Derek

arealhuman
16-02-18, 14:43
Had a Gen2 TEx from new and the finish was appalling - fasteners and spokes went to shite and this was a looked after bike. Went to ride it one day and there were orange blobs all over the exhaust can. Triumph replaced that but said the spokes and fasteners were as expected. Sold it on, not in a hurry to go back. I may well have got a Friday afternoon bike, but stuff online and other owners I've spoken to would indicate not. Just hoping the GS fares better!

wrinkleyowlie
17-02-18, 08:54
Had a Gen2 TEx from new and the finish was appalling - fasteners and spokes went to shite and this was a looked after bike. Went to ride it one day and there were orange blobs all over the exhaust can. Triumph replaced that but said the spokes and fasteners were as expected. Sold it on, not in a hurry to go back. I may well have got a Friday afternoon bike, but stuff online and other owners I've spoken to would indicate not. Just hoping the GS fares better!

I'm very surprised that Triumph where not interested in a bike who's stainless fixings, and spokes, were starting to corrode despite the bike being less than 10mnts old and having not been ridden on salted roads.
Should be no such thing as a 'Friday afternoon bike' as far as fastenings are concerned as they are outsourced rather than made in house.

I've seen the process that Triumph put their outsourced fasteners through as in terms of testing for corrosion, and again I'd say I'm very surprised they where prepared to accept some corrosion on these parts after such a short period of time.

Enjoy your GS.

thebuyer
17-02-18, 09:04
My 02 Bonnie I never bother cleaning. Then again. It is smothered in FS365. Has rebuilt wheels with stainless spokes and decent fasteners (now) :D

https://s26.postimg.org/4kzfonv21/P9300069.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/vitcqakt5/P9300103.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/fkkn07gbd/P9300093.jpg

Stunning bike ... like the bars and exhaust very much :thumb2

This is my on going project

Robbo1200ADV
17-02-18, 09:05
I had 3 of the early Tigers and the build quality was not great, clutch cables made of cheese ignition switches that fell out sprag clutches that went bang. The reason I bought an 1150 GSA in 2002 and have not looked back. Loved the Tiger but it was too unreliable for me

wrinkleyowlie
17-02-18, 10:20
I had 3 of the early Tigers and the build quality was not great, clutch cables made of cheese ignition switches that fell out sprag clutches that went bang. The reason I bought an 1150 GSA in 2002 and have not looked back. Loved the Tiger but it was too unreliable for me

I had an early Sprint and then Daytona, both suffered from terrible corrosion and various other problems and I vowed I would never buy Triumph again.

But things change and as I eluded to modern Triumphs in my original post, I really meant in the last 5-6 years that the build quality has dramatically improved in my opinion and experience.

jonnie comet
17-02-18, 16:36
My 02 Bonnie I never bother cleaning. Then again. It is smothered in FS365. Has rebuilt wheels with stainless spokes and decent fasteners (now) :D

https://s26.postimg.org/4kzfonv21/P9300069.jpg




That's bloody nice that is.

I'm not keen on the seat but the rest looks nice.....shame they can't make them like that in the first place (I know, regs')

Anyway, it really does look great......:thumb2

Nice 'n' Fat
17-02-18, 17:14
Whatdyamean? ... the seat is the best bit :D

arealhuman
18-02-18, 12:25
I'm very surprised that Triumph where not interested in a bike who's stainless fixings, and spokes, were starting to corrode despite the bike being less than 10mnts old and having not been ridden on salted roads.
Should be no such thing as a 'Friday afternoon bike' as far as fastenings are concerned as they are outsourced rather than made in house.

I've seen the process that Triumph put their outsourced fasteners through as in terms of testing for corrosion, and again I'd say I'm very surprised they where prepared to accept some corrosion on these parts after such a short period of time.

Enjoy your GS.

No more surpirsed than me! At that time I had a 6 year old dirt bike that was fairly well used and the spokes were in better condition. On the TEx they went black and blotchy, and felt rough to the touch. Triumph did say they source their fasteners from across the globe, but regardless, mine were cheese and I wasn't alone. That said, as has been posted here, I know others who've had the bikes and had no issues.

kryseric
22-02-18, 19:28
Water dispersal and protection
A company called Vapor-tek based in Bolton produce a spay on coating called steelgard. This outperforms ACF50 in a number of ways one of which is that it quickly disperses water and damp (better than WD40 or any other product I have ever used). The anti corrosion performance is way above ACF50. http://www.vapor-tek.co.uk/steelgard/