Moving to the USA (Seattle)-questions

Lamble

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It looks probable that I'll be moving to Seattle in Spring 06 form England. There are a few questions I'd like to get answers to:

1. anyone got shipping info they could pass on
2.what's the legal requirements for riding in the US, do I have to re take a riding test?
3. registration for the GS, how does that work
4. what are insurance rates like and can anyone advise on a good company
5. what's the GS scene like in Seattle
6. are there any dealerships you'd recommend
7.anything else I haven't thought of, that you'd want to give me help with

many thanks...
Lamble
 
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Lamble said:
It looks probable that I'll be moving to Seattle in Spring 06 form England. There are a few questions I'd like to get answers to:

1. anyone got shipping info they could pass on
2.what's the legal requirements for riding in the US, do I have to re take a riding test?
3. registration for the GS, how does that work
4. what are insurance rates like and can anyone advise on a good company
5. what's the GS scene like in Seattle
6. are there any dealerships you'd recommend
7.anything else I haven't thought of, that you'd want to give me help with

many thanks...
Lamble
1. Can't help on that.
2. Probably. State to state motorcycle license endorsements are transferable but I doubt country to country is.
3. Best to check with the US Customs folks and the WA Dept of Motor Vehicles. So far as I know a fairly new bike needs to meet US safety etc standards...which may be an expensive thing. Might be best to sell at home and buy another when you get here. This is something you really do need to find out before bringing the bike.
4. I pay $340/yr for full coverage on an 05 GS but I live in a rural area so it's cheaper than in/near a city with more traffic(Seattle has tons and tons of it too).
5. I dunno. I'm brand new to the GS thing and live on the peninsula. I try to avoid Seattle like the plague. Nice city but too many folks packed in there for my tastes.
6. I haven't dealt with them yet but South Sound BMW in Tacoma(?) has a good service dept reputation but the salesman I talked to when shopping for a GS was an arrogant arse. Ride West BMW in Seattle also has a good shop rep but again haven't been there yet either. Both dealers are technically owned by the same guy for what that's worth. I bought my GS in Portland, OR from the Portland MC Co(BMW and other brands dealer). but I haven't even got the 600 mile break in miles yet so can't say what their service dept is like either.
7. Can't think of anything but I'll still be home for a few days so email me if ya have anymore questions and I'll do what I can.

Wow this got really long didn't it? :)

edit: here's a place to start WA State Dept. of Transportaion
 
When I get home I will let you know, I moved to Boston from UK 9 months ago.

Have most answers and figures for you.

Cheers, NIck
 
Hi I ship out of Seattle to UK LHR (my RAM parts) and use Mid-America Overseas Inc and in UK via Allport, works well.

PM.. me if you want contacts at MAO Inc, Seattle.

RAM-man
 
RAM man,
Apparently I can't PM you from this page, but I would like the info on MAO Inc

Thanks.
 
Sorry for the delay. I have answered each one under your question:

It looks probable that I'll be moving to Seattle in Spring 06 form England. There are a few questions I'd like to get answers to:

1. anyone got shipping info they could pass on
Shipping for belongs and apartment / home I found Allied (Pickfords) to do it well but you need to get them to write everything they promise down. Bishops (Shepards street, Battersea) are also very good. If the company are paying then put some extra stuff into the quote(they will come to your house and assess the load.) You can always go and change it, we did several times.
INSURANCE FOR Shipping - This is daylight robbery, but imagine your all your belongings falling into the ocean off the container ship, it happened to one of my Sales Managers in LA a few years back. Even though she got a cheque for 70 thousand, there are things that she lost that will never be replaced.
You can include you bike in the shipping. They will crate it and take it from your house IF(I will come on to this) you decide to take it.



2.what's the legal requirements for riding in the US, do I have to re take a riding test?
The USA will not recognise you licence if you wish to OWN a bike in the USA on a USA licence and title(V5 docs) You will be required to sit a multiple question driving test, something like 14 out of 20 right gets you a pass and the right to take your driving test. The driving test consists of a number of very basic moves, but if you get any wrong you fail So a foot dab on a figure of 8 will mean a fail. What I ended up doing as you need a bike for this test (USA DOT tested and insurance etc) I went for a training session. How this works is 1 half day of theory and then 2 days of riding a 250 around a car park. At the end you have a test that is so simple it is amazing. It is NOTHING like the test at home. This will cost you around 300 dollars to do and the bikes are included (I did mind whilst awaiting my USA bike)

3. registration for the GS, how does that work
Now this is difficult to accept. I looked into this for many hours with MAX BMW and they where very good. You can bring you bike to the States BUT consider this. If you import is tempory you will need to leave within 1 year. You will keep your bike on a UK plate etc.
If you are staying for longer.......honestly you may wish to sell your bike and start again. You have a UK (Euro spec) bike. USA bikes have to be Department of Transportation (DOT approved) Here is the list for you to check your bike:
DOT stamps required on the following:
Brake lines
Fuel lines
Head light
Tyres
Brake pads
Charcoal emissions cannister (you do have one of these)
Exhaust pipe

That's about it and you will need most of it to register the bike. You will be applying for TITLE (V5 at home) registeration (to ensure, insurance coverage and your tag (licence plate)

If you import your bike and the immigration and DOT inspectors are in a bad mood (Your risk) you bike can be:
Returned to exporting country at your expense
Destroyed :eek:
Inpounded and fixed at your cost by a dealer (around 3000 to 4000 dollars)

This is what I did. Sold UK bike (03 Adventure) at home for 6500 quid, then raped the exchanged rate added a few quid of my own and bought a BRAND new bike


4. what are insurance rates like and can anyone advise on a good company
Geico.com is the cheapest.
INternet froggle search will help you
Washington state has no set insurance guidelines, I have to use a special dealer in MASS as it is a real wierd state!

5. what's the GS scene like in Seattle
Very good I believe and from what I read on ADV rider there are plenty in that area. I nearly bought a bike from one of the guys there.
6. are there any dealerships you'd recommend
PAss I am on the wrong coast, but the Beamer dealers are A LOT different to home, very very helpful. Remember the USA is all about SERVICE SERVICE

7.anything else I haven't thought of, that you'd want to give me help with
A Importation handler. Seems stupid but this person managed my shippment and dealt with the US muppets at the ports.



I will PM you my details if you need to chat.
 
thanks to you all

Gents,

Thank you for all of your help. There's plenty of food for thought.
I'd hoped not to sell the GSA, especially over winter months.
I might have to leave it here with a friend in mothballs for when we return in 3 or 4 years hence, or ask him to sell it at a better time.

Any offers?
 
My thoughts.......

YOU JAMMY BASTARD!

I spent 3 weeks of my 12 wk US trip in the Seattle/WA area in 2004.

Ride West in BMW were very helpful.

The area is beautiful with some great riding. Take a day trip out to Whidbey Island, vist The San Juan Islands by ferry and Vancouver/Vancouver Island as previously mentioned. Devote some time to skiing too! There is a great biking road up to Mount St Helens on the WA / OR border. Ride the Columbia Gorge east of Portland.

Dont forget to ride the Oregon coast from Astoria down to the 3 Capes and beyond to The Oregon Sand Dunes Rec' Area, hire a quad and race up 110ft dunes.

I also think they hold a big annual BMW rally in late spring early/ summer in Spokane eastern WA. Check it out!

And definitely take the family for a long weekend to Galcier NP about a days drive away in Montana . Gorgeous scenery!!!!

Have fun! Very , very jealous.
 
I can't help you with a lot of your questions, but I can assure you that there are some great riding roads and trails in the Pacific Northwest. The weather is generally mild, about like parts of the UK.

The BMW clubs in that area are particularly active, and you can find a lot of them on ADVRider.

Have fun while you are here, and take some time to travel across the US to other parts of the country. It is a big place, but the GS eats up the miles.

Jim :cool:
 
proposed route....for comments please

I've just picked up Road Trip USA-jamie jensen ISBN 1-56691-396-9 Avalon Travel Publishing.

It lays out a network of 2 lane scenic highways, so here's my unrefined first draft version of the route East to West:

Ship in to JFK-escape from NY on 70 toward Philadelphia, aiming towards Columbus.
Down to Indianapolis still on the 70 and through to St Louis. Pick up the 35 for Kansas City.
Topeka, Dodge City, Pueblo, Provo, Ely.
At Ely turn North to Boise, the 84/90 up to Seattle.

Shouldn't take more than a couple of hours at most!

Using this as a base template route I can already see alternatives for breaking north east earlier and whilst it's easier to identify the larger cities, on the map I have, I'd be happier to miss them, so any refinements gents?
 
US 50

Ignore this: Ship in to JFK-escape from NY on 70 toward Philadelphia, aiming towards Columbus.
Down to Indianapolis still on the 70 and through to St Louis. Pick up the 35 for Kansas City.
Topeka, Dodge City, Pueblo, Provo, Ely.
At Ely turn North to Boise, the 84/90 up to Seattle


On closer inspection, most of the route is US 50, although I've heard it's a bit of a death trap, due to undulations and strange cambers (Is this because US drivers aren't used to the sort of roads we have here in Essex, or is it truely trecherous?)

Kind offers of help are pouring in, I've even been offered a 2xGSer escort across Death Valley, although I'm wanting to experience some of the vastness and solitude of the US on my own. It's mainly the unfamiliar cities where help would be appreciated, although ride along buddies are always welcomed.
 
proposed route....for comments please

New York
Rahway
New Brunswick
Trenton
Norristown
Little Britain (just because it’s the name of a great comedy show in England)
Peach Bottom (photo opportunity!)
Manchester
Creagerstown
Martinsburg
Romney
Gormania (horror movie?)
Belington
Buckhannon
Glenville
Spencer
Ripley
Gallipolis
Patriot
Portsmouth
Vanceburg
Flemingsburg
Headquarters (I’ve always wanted to reach Headquarters)
Paris (irony)
Frankfort (irony 2)
Shelbyville (Heard of it not sure why)
Louisville (Ali)
English (well you’ve jus got to)
Birdseye (comedy name)
Oakland City
Mount Carmel
Fairfield
Mount Vernon
Nashville
Freeburg
Concord
Defiance
Hermann
Columbia
Marshall
Wellington
Kansas City (promised a BBQ)
Tonganoxie
Topeka
Paxico
Manhattan
Oak Hill
Delphos
Blue Hill
Covert (try to sneak through without being noticed)
Zurich (irony 3)
Hill City
Hoxie
Rexford
Achilles (must be a classic)
Ludell
Max (to see what the speed limit is)
Ough
Champion
Amherst
Red Lion (name of the local Pub)
Sidney
Kimball
Cheyenne (wild west)
Laramie (the man from…)
Columbine
Savery
Manila
Mountain View
Evanston
Logan
Burley
Twin Falls
Gooding
Mountain Home
Boise
Payette
Baker City
La Grande
Pendleton
Kennewick
Yakima...snow free route...Naches
South Cle Elum
North Bend
Issaquah
Newcastle
Mercer Island
Tacoma
Seattle
 
Lamble said:
Ignore this: Ship in to JFK-escape from NY on 70 toward Philadelphia, aiming towards Columbus.
Down to Indianapolis still on the 70 and through to St Louis. Pick up the 35 for Kansas City.
Topeka, Dodge City, Pueblo, Provo, Ely.
At Ely turn North to Boise, the 84/90 up to Seattle


On closer inspection, most of the route is US 50, although I've heard it's a bit of a death trap, due to undulations and strange cambers (Is this because US drivers aren't used to the sort of roads we have here in Essex, or is it truely trecherous?)

Kind offers of help are pouring in, I've even been offered a 2xGSer escort across Death Valley, although I'm wanting to experience some of the vastness and solitude of the US on my own. It's mainly the unfamiliar cities where help would be appreciated, although ride along buddies are always welcomed.

50 is a blast, with great scenery, excellent roads, and little traffic.

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You really can't go wrong in WV and along route 50.

Jim :cool:
 
New route version

Comments welcomed, however I think this ticks most boxes:

Town/city route

Morton's BMW-Baltimore
frederick
bolivar
front royal
skyland
newton
love
irish creek
Overlook
winston salem
Asheville
Cherokee IR
Indian Gap
Deal's Gap
Madisonville
Spring City
Crossville
Sparta
Smithville
Lebanon
franklin
russellville
hopkinsville
Dawson Spring
Clay
shawneetown
Carbondale
Sand Ridge
Chester
Claryville
St Marys
Thomure
Bloomsdale
Cedar Hill Lakes
St Clair
Union
Rosebud
Jefferson City
Sedalia
Lees
Kansas
Emporia
Elmdale
McPherson
Great Bend
Kinsley
Dodge City
Garden City
Hasty
Pueblo
Canon City
Poncha Springs
sapinero
montrose
ridgway
placerville
Vancorum
La Sal Junction
Moab
Canyon lands NP
moab
Beaver
Baker
Ely
Austin 50
Fallon
Fernley
Sparks
Doyle
Susanville
Old Station
Redding
Weaverville
willow creek
Blue Lake 299
Moonstone 101
Orick 101
Klamath
Crescent City
Harbour
Gold Beach
Port Orford
Bandon
Florence
Tillamook
Seaside
Astoria
South Bend
elma
Shelton
Port Orchard
104-3 juction
(Ferry)
Edmonds
The End...of the beginning.
 
I see that you will be traveling through the eastern side of Utah. Southern Utah has some of the most spectacular scenery in the the southwest US. It might be a little out of your way, but I highly recommend an excursion through Capitol Reef National Park (Route 24) to Torrey, UT. Then head then south / southwest on Route 12 which will take you by Escalante Grand Staircare and by Bryce Canyon National Park. From there, you can pick up US 89 and head north.
 
Closing in

The ride is only a few weeks away now. There have been a few changes, the start is now Atlanta. I'll ride up the Appalachians to Fort Royal, then turn South West before picking up the original route posted earlier.

I'll have a blog set up and running during the trip.

Thanks for the advice so far.

Lamble
 


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