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Thread: Reading the road and using your vision

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasher View Post
    in my day it was lads in jeans on RD125's with far more bravado than skill
    Ooh that sounds a bit like me.........except I was brill with the skill

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    The biggest issue with riders is the constant desire to ride faster than it is safe to do so. Just because you can take a corner at 80, doesn't mean you should.
    I've been out on many a fast ride that has had me wincing at the speed that some people will go round bends. They have been good, trained and talented riders, but their sense of imortality often leads them to travel 5-10% quicker than is actually safe.
    Personally I prefer to enjoy the ride more now and leave the racing to those who will apparently live forever.

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    Cornering

    Looking at Wappings post reminded me

    Slow in / fast out.

    Fast in / ambulance out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapping View Post
    This video film of Adenauer Forst from the 70's shows how many first timers get caught out..... and have some bloody lucky escapes.... that might not be available closer to home.

    What an excellent memorial to rear engines and swing axles The peeps in the convertable Beetle probably owe their lives to the driver. He got them into the cack but at least he got them back out of it too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapping View Post
    A response from another forum to a copy of Gile's piece made quite a good point:

    If we can't see all of the road ahead there is a danger that our brains fill in the missing parts with what we think 'should' be there.

    One good example of this is a section of track at the Nurburgring where most first timers get caught out, Adenauer Forst.

    On the approach to Adenauer Forst the track looks like it goes to the right. One looks further up the track and it appears to continue to the right but it doesn't, there is a hidden very sharp left right in between what you can't actually see, causing so many drivers/riders to go into this section way too fast.

    The driver's imagination has filled in the 'missing' gap of track that cannot be seen with a continuation of the curve to the right and Bingo! You get into trouble.

    This video film of Adenauer Forst from the 70's shows how many first timers get caught out..... and have some bloody lucky escapes.... that might not be available closer to home.

    I guess you didn't need a TV if you lived near here. "Just popping out for a fag and to watch a few crashes dear".

    There will be loads of misleading roads in our local patches. There are even some crackers on new roads where the designers should have known better.

    The classic "In slow, out fast" is many of our older motorway on/off slips which tighten up.

    We should get some pics up. As it's a Friday night there should be a couple of crash examples from Shetland by the morning

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    Brilliant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    FFS where does Japanese sword work come in useful while riding your 'bike
    Sounds odd ut very applicable.

    It's a first class example of object fixation. When you've got a bokken (oak sword) winging it's way at your head at 60mph, the last thing you need to do is look at it. But guess what the natural thing is to do? Looking at and getting fixed on your opponent's eyes, hands, sword tip or anything else removes your ability to see properly.

    Happens to the best too. I once decked a very senior teacher on a course because he lost concentration.

    You get trained to look without looking at anything particular, relying on peripheral vision. The timings are about the same as fast road riding.

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    What about the driver who fell out of the green one!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by david a hall View Post
    What about the driver who fell out of the green one!!!
    ah now that was a Kerryman.
    He was opening the door to let the clutch out.


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    Motorway slip roads (autoroute) that have caught me out a few times over the years are the exit slips off French autoroutes by cities.

    The exit by Lyon leaves at a nice 140kph, goes into a 400m tunnel and then in 50m comes to an inner city cross roads with zebra crossing

    Similarly, the exit slip into Reims takes you off at a steady motorway lick and at the top of the ramp there is a STOP sign and T junction with juggernauts crossing left to right!!!!

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    Thanks very much, nother great post Giles

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    Good post, nice of you to take the trouble.

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