Stonker
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Why not check out the Triumph or Moto Guzzi?
honda had single sided swing arms on the RC30 in 1987 and on the VFR750 in 1990, so they are not new to it.
Maybe you should quit the sweeping generalisations until you know what you are talking about
I know that, but I think you will find they were chain driven, I am talking about shaft drives and earlier mentioned single sided shaft drives so why don't some of you fucking pricks read first and shoot later.
Why not check out the Triumph?
I know that, but I think you will find they were chain driven, I am talking about shaft drives and earlier mentioned single sided shaft drives so why don't some of you fucking pricks read first and shoot later.
I know that, but I think you will find they were chain driven, I am talking about shaft drives and earlier mentioned single sided shaft drives so why don't some of you fucking pricks read first and shoot later.
We all know that BMW's arent perfect, but I wonder what percentage of the bikes sold actually break down or need to have bits replaced. If you were using the forums as a reference point,you would think that absolutely every bike sold has broke or had stuff replaced/looked at. Wonder what % age of bikes actually go wrongSo, Ive been thinking about a new bike. Its not that Im unhappy with my trusty 2001, 1150GS, single spark, Non servo ABS machine, but it is incredibly heavy & the spares prices are exhorbitant & the fuel ecconmy not up to that of many modern bikes. I may still keep it though & do a full on restoration, as I think its a classic model. But I do have an itch for a new steed & have been floundering until now.
Was first thinking F800GS, good fuel econnomy, lighter & with good off-road ability. However, chain drive, poor build quality from BMW recently & still got the problem of expensive spares. Then thought Triumph Tiger 800, beuatiful looks, brithish marque & off-road capability. But V-poor fuel consumption, chain drive & reliability issues. Thought about the new watercooled 1250 GS or the new Tenere adventure but dissmised them for one or another reason.
By chance came accross an ad for Hondas new crosstourer.
Bit ugly, but ticks many other boxes of my needs. Watercooled, maint free shaft drive, big enough to tour but not too heavy to pick up. Spoked wheels & longish supension travel to give the kind of minimal off-road ability I need (basicly, roughish public roads). Hondas uber reliability & fuel consumption around the 80 mpg mark. I also like the dual clutch option & the traction control as standard.
Wondering what you folks think.
Link to site here:-
http://www.hondamc2012.com/bikes/concept-v4x-2/
Spyder.
We all know that BMW's arent perfect, but I wonder what percentage of the bikes sold actually break down or need to have bits replaced. If you were using the forums as a reference point,you would think that absolutely every bike sold has broke or had stuff replaced/looked at. Wonder what % age of bikes actually go wrong
Does anyone know???
There have been several threads about the diesel Track over the last few years. I love the look of the thing, but would be wary of shelling out on a bike from such a small manufacturer.
Continuing the trend for poor arithmetic in this thread - your V4 seems to have acquired an extra 8 valves from somewhere.
I have no worries about reliability with the Honda and it does not fill me with dread like any new BMW, not wanting to go over the many common faults that the 1200's have (and still do suffer from) but basically I am nervous about my BMW with 15k on it, whereas I could happily buy a Honda (or the Tenere) and ride 10k per year for years on end with no worries of exploding drive train systems etc.
I have almost given up on finding a bike as good as the GS and if it were not for shite reliability and expensive servicing I would not even bother to ride the Honda, but I don't trust BMW to bring out a new model that is reliable, and even upgrading to a twin-cam involves known reliability issues / expensive servicing / essential need to pay for extended warranty every year etc. so I will have to choose another bike and it will either be this Honda or the Yamaha Tenere.
Just out of interest has your GS ever broken down?
Nothing that required recovery, a few things have gone wrong (and if it was not for my AUB warranty it would have been over £1,000 of work on a bike that had not covered 15k)
But IMO it seems highly likely if I keep a GS for any length of time / much past 20k you are highly likely to need an FD, and I already carry an FPC around as it is also highly likely to fail at any time.
Don't want another BMW reliability firefight, but personally I (very regretably as I love the bike) have little faith in BMW reliability & support and a lot more faith in Honda / Yamaha.
Although I still have my F8GS, I actually also took delivery of a new Crosstourer last week and I am mightily impressed so far !