Police and new RT,s

The people working on these sorts of teams, are consummately professional. I know I know I know I come on here and have a laugh, take the piss and add smileys and maybe make it all sound a bit blasé .... but in many ways the forum is my way of relaxing and unwinding after what can sometimes be a bloody stressful day.
There is a job to be done, and my God .... you think it doesn't play on peoples minds the consequences of getting it wrong? If a copper tells you that pursuits are a hoot and a laugh, then they have little experience in the matter. They're mostly terrifying for all the reasons that you allude to.
The drivers and riders on these specialist teams are highly trained, and I'm not talking 'reactions', 'car control' :rolleyes:, I'm talking attitude and professionalism, decision making, being calm under pressure - red mist versus cancelling. So please don't think that travelling in such a manner is 'having a good old spank and being paid for it'. It has to be proportionate.

There are some teams out there that do genuinely need to get the job done, and that getting the job done is constantly risk assessed and judged.

If for example, a surveillance team are working on a subject and he gets on a train to Leeds ..... that's what the bike is for, and that's why they'll ride Hayabusa's and K1300 and the like. That operative needs to be at the train station before the train gets in. If that rider missed the train, lost the subject, and returned to the office saying something along the lines 'well it was a nice clear motorway, the weather was good but I didn't want to go any faster than double the motorway speed limit cos .... well you know how it is ... it wouldn't have looked to good would it ...? ' Then he'd frankly be no good to the team. They need a professional rider who can assess, self manage, and justify his actions; 'It wasn't safe here, it was busy, and there wasn't the justification or the necessity' .... or ..... 'It was safe here, it was quiet, there were four lanes, and I was able to make up some time at a speed that was appropriate'.

The trip to Barking? A team we'd been working on for weeks. Stealing what amounted to thousands and thousands from the elderly (your Mum in her 80's ...). Phoning through to another county and asking if they could park up a suitably trained car and wait for a vehicle that's likely to be on a particular road any time in the next ten minutes?? Do you realise how ragged the service is being run at the moment? The phone call itself would have probably taken ten minutes .....

I accept the criticism for sounding lairy :D (It's unwinding ... :thumb2), but I don't accept the criticism that it's irresponsible. The peepes are utterly professional, are constantly under the spotlight of justification, and will do their job to the very best of their abilities putting the public first .... :thumb2

Ok Enough of the piss taking about doing favours and the like

Giles makes a decent enough point that although riding at thos speeds at first glance seems like fun to us on the outside (It must be a good buzz regardless) the chances of being killed whilst performing a vital job for Queen and country are probably quite high and i for one would not like to do it. Susan worries about me when i am on the bike for fun (un necessarily of course) but the wives and girlfriends(possibly both) of bods such as Giles must worry every single day when their men go to work because at the speeds they have to go to perform whatever task they are given leave very little room for other peoples errors
 
Lets hope ` someone ` doesn`t steal your car/bike, attack your wife or children or break in to your house .........or would hypocrisy be okay then !
There are times traveling at speed needs to be done, the individual may be asked to justify their actions , a code one is a code one.
Well unless they are traveling towards Cheltenham and in that case they will travel at the speed limit....lol

Shinyface :blast

We get lectured all of the time about the danger of speed by police & road safety units yet going double the speed limit seems okay in some circumstances if you have a warrant card. Smacks of hypocrisy to me.[/QUOTE]
 
Last time i stick up for you !! :aidan

What time does the KTM say it is ?:augie


Ahhhh well, its mount up and ride into the Citroen dealer in Canterbury time.

My wife (who I love dearly but ... has a habit of occasionally being fecking thick) has left (now lost) the oil filler cap off her car :blast


'Darling, I checked the oil in my car last week and topped it up, and now the oil light is on - can you check it please .. '

'Honey, (Sigh ..) can you get me some kitchen towel so I can make an attempt to clean up the sticky black mess thats under your bonnet .. Can you remember what you might have done with the filler cap last week .... :nenau)

Sheesh ..... Women .... :rolleyes:
 
Ahhhh well, its mount up and ride into the Citroen dealer in Canterbury time.

My wife (who I love dearly but ... has a habit of occasionally being fecking thick) has left (now lost) the oil filler cap off her car :blast


'Darling, I checked the oil in my car last week and topped it up, and now the oil light is on - can you check it please .. '

'Honey, (Sigh ..) can you get me some kitchen towel so I can make an attempt to clean up the sticky black mess thats under your bonnet .. Can you remember what you might have done with the filler cap last week .... :nenau)

Sheesh ..... Women .... :rolleyes:

I am impressed that she even knows where it is

Susan thinks her car is incredibly economical as she hasnt had to put any petrol in it for 18 months !
 
If you are riding at those sort of speeds on public roads then you are a twat (now tell me what a good advanced Police rider you are). Would it not have been easier, safer and more sensible to get the Met to have made the arrests for you? I wonder what a court would have made of it had you taken out another motorist at those speeds?

I would imagine anyone asking Giles to get from point A to Point B in a certain time will have a very good reason for doing so... and will have considered the justification of their request taking into account his professionalism in giving it the berries 'when safe to do so'.

You tried phoning the Met lately?
 
But .... 130 top whack is exactly that ... Top whack. That means it's working its bollox off to maintain that. If you have a 155 mph bike, that in turn means that at 130, it's not working too hard. I've blown an RT up on the motorway before (Coming out of Dover on the A20 chasing a car that was making off .... ). The bike went bang at 130 and then the oil in the exhaust caught fire :D

I don't want to sound all macho and cuntish, but a good top end is necessary. Sometimes there are huge distances to cover and if yer running yer bike flat out, it's stressed, and it's going to go bang.

We had an excellent result a few months back where we had to be in Barking to stop a motor that was going to arrive imminently. GSXR, at 170 on the A2 and 150 round the A 13 got me there with ... literally minutes to spare. That resulted in 9 in custody from an East European gang that had been targeting the elderly. Theyve all pleaded guilty at crown court and are going down for a considerable amount of time :clap

The RT would'nt have made it, and it would have (on that day ... ) not got us the result ... :thumb2

I think this is a cover story and no elderly victims were involved. I think Giles got wind of a group of LC clock thieves and wanted to extract justice on behalf of himself and his former LC riding biker mates :D:D
 
I always give Nutty plenty of space .... ( :eek: )


:D
 
I was out a couple of weeks back with a group who I'd never met before except for my mate who suggested I come along. We proceeded up to lairg then over to Ullapool and back west (Inverness).
We took it in turns to lead, I went quite conservatively, within 10% speed limits as I was first away from starting point. After that it was basically as fast as you could reasonably go. We stopped in Ullapool for lunch and it was then I found out we were out with plod bikers, I was invited because I'm IAM and considered a quick rider. I was surprised at the speeds we were doing, but I could keep up with these lads.

We had a very entertaining day out.
 
He will with an 1190 hunting him down ..... :D
 
Wow isn't it strange how us boys digress :blagblah but must say I thoroughly enjoyed the banter. Now what was the original question? Lol
 
Memo to self: Do not follow Giles.;)

Quite the opposite Chris, as (& I don't want to inflate his fooking ego too much) following a bike cop is highly informative.......;)

In particular......it's always handy when you see his actions when hitting the brow of a blind hill & finding a senior doing a u turn in their Golf.....:eek::eek::eek:

i found it quite instructive :)

Indeed it is.....even if you're right @ the back & struggling to control the power of your new beast.....:p

It's fun following Giles! :D More fun when he's behind you!:D

Always nice to receive critique from an advanced rozzer rider; albeit a little disconcerting that he might have fitted discreet blue lights to unsettle you......:eek:
 


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