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    Smudger are you a member of the Sunbeam Owners Fellowship? Ive got an S7 Deluxe and they really helped me out when I first got it, as you know by now, they are unique!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenman14 View Post
    You sent it away for a Hot Wash? Don't you have a dishwasher and a wife who occasionally leaves you alone in the house?
    Years ago, missis at work, rebuilding an MZ, the crankcases in the gas oven (Gas mark 1/4) for twenty minutes, was just the right temperature, main bearings out of the freezer and 'chink' they dropped in to place with no hammering

    A week later she puts the oven on for a Sunday roast and couldn't understand the smell of cats pee and smoke from the oven ... hot gear oil at its best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozer View Post
    Smudger are you a member of the Sunbeam Owners Fellowship? Ive got an S7 Deluxe and they really helped me out when I first got it, as you know by now, they are unique!
    Hi Dozer, Looks lovely mate! I have one the same, a 1949 model the only difference is mine has a pillion seat! I love the S7Deluxe although as you say they do have they're quirks! I am a member indeed of the SOF, lots of good people on there always willing to help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Years ago, missis at work, rebuilding an MZ, the crankcases in the gas oven (Gas mark 1/4) for twenty minutes, was just the right temperature, main bearings out of the freezer and 'chink' they dropped in to place with no hammering

    A week later she puts the oven on for a Sunday roast and couldn't understand the smell of cats pee and smoke from the oven ... hot gear oil at its best

    I did the same Micky with my half time wheel bush in the S8, although i just put the gear on top of the oil radiator in the garage and left the bush outside one night, just dropped in like you say, can't beat the old simple methods!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Years ago, missis at work, rebuilding an MZ, the crankcases in the gas oven (Gas mark 1/4) for twenty minutes, was just the right temperature, main bearings out of the freezer and 'chink' they dropped in to place with no hammering

    A week later she puts the oven on for a Sunday roast and couldn't understand the smell of cats pee and smoke from the oven ... hot gear oil at its best

    I'm sure that as an upstanding pillar of the community you gave a full confession Micky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckspeed View Post
    I'm sure that as an upstanding pillar of the community you gave a full confession Micky?
    "No cough, no job"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky View Post
    Years ago, missis at work, rebuilding an MZ, the crankcases in the gas oven (Gas mark 1/4) for twenty minutes, was just the right temperature, main bearings out of the freezer and 'chink' they dropped in to place with no hammering

    A week later she puts the oven on for a Sunday roast and couldn't understand the smell of cats pee and smoke from the oven ... hot gear oil at its best

    Daily ocurence in our house as I rebuild a lot of Nortons.
    So much so that I am putting an oven in my workshop today.
    Might restore some domestic harmony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The smudger View Post
    Hi Dozer, Looks lovely mate! I have one the same, a 1949 model the only difference is mine has a pillion seat! I love the S7Deluxe although as you say they do have they're quirks! I am a member indeed of the SOF, lots of good people on there always willing to help.

    I took the pillion seat off, I had a feeling that anyone brave enough to use it would end up getting their ass sanded off by the back tyre when the rear mudguard collapsed....! It wasn't pretty either, absolutely massive, I sold it to a Beamer in the USA. If you have an S7DL, why go through the pain of trying to refurbish another one !!? They are a bit of a nightmare as you know, especially as even basket cases are fetching silly money now. I was offered 10k at a show for mine last summer, by an American that was desperate for one that he could ship back to the States. I couldn't part with it though.

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    Here's mine Dozer, Must use it more this year.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by The smudger View Post
    Here's mine Dozer, Must use it more this year.....
    I like that...a lot

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    If you ever get a chance to pick up a Sunbeam S7 De Luxe, even a basket case, buy it, as they are going to be worth a fortune in the future and for some reason, are incredibly well supported with owners clubs, technical information and a Sunbeam specific supplier. The S8s are a bit cheaper, but the balloon tyred S7 is the one to go for.

    Photo attached of the VMCC day at the Ace Café in 2016, quite a lot of Sunbeams attended.....

    They are also a peach of a bike to own and ride, once you get used to their strange little ways....!
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    Well, i can't believe i have had this bike for almost 3 years now...

    Thought i would do a little update on the bike.

    I removed the pistons as the compressions were on the low side, and found the rings were seized. So rings are not a problem, new set of rings (NOS) found and bought for £30. So the plan was to fit new rings, de-glaze the bores and de-coke the head.

    Now the best laid plans...

    On these bikes the engine is a parallel twin, so head removal is easy, sump off, pistons out. Now before i replaced the pistons i noticed when cleaning the sump out, 2 'teeth' that looked like gear teeth. It didn't take long to find out where they were from, the 1/2 time wheel, so now i have to remove the engine to get to the timing case to change the sprocket, bollocks....

    Engine out, no real problem, and stripped in no time. The engine has never been stripped, but i find the flywheel not was done up (assume at factory?) with a hammer and chisel (I suppose it was 1949...).

    Fast foward 18 months...

    Here are some pics of the current state of play.

    Engine is now finally rebuilt and read to go back into the frame.

    Driveshaft overhauled.

    Thought i would check the kick start bronze gear before i re-fitted the engine, oh dear, 'that'll be another £200 please sir'....
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    Checked the clutch plate, I'm sure these holes should be round...


    New plate then. Offer the old friction plate up to the new clutch plate, that won't do... After a couple of days investigation, it appears that someone has fitted the wrong clutch friction plate (apparently the one from a hillman imp was very similar and cheaper, and worked if you knocked the top hat sleeves out of the clutch plate (offs...), so, that'll be a new friction plate as well then??

    Oh, and because some idiot knocked the top hat sleeved out, the clutch plate chewed away at the studs, new studs? at 11 quid each, i discovered that if you loosen them you can spin them through 180 degrees and hey presto, another £100 (!!!) saved...


    Also i have decided NOT to make the bike shiny, already got a shiny one, this is definitely going to be an oily rag.

    So i am just cleaning 60 odd years of grime from everywhere, my motto is, "if its rusty but original, and it works, its going back on.

    More to come...
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    Watching with great interest and excitement Smudge

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    OK, so i have a week off now, and decided to do a bit to the Sunbeam.

    As i have said in the last post this is to be no shining garage queen, i want to keep it as original as i can as it has never been restored.

    Cleaned up the frame, 69 years of grime, very satisfying indeed. I found a fly in some old grime behind the rear mudguard, and thought, 'how old is this'..

    The frame is now ready for the motor, once the kickstart gear gets here (this week) i will assemble this and it can go in.

    I removed the front wheel, and tyre, i think the last owner had their monies worth from this!!! New tyre and tube fitted.

    I sent the brake shoes away for re-lining. A company called Villiers. £19 including the postage back to me! I spent a lot of time cleaning the 'patina' from the chrome backplate, think it looks nice and 'old' now.

    Stripped the steering damper, cleaned and re-greased the thrust washers, re-assembled.

    Drained the front forks. Cleaned behind the headlight etc, steering stem/head. All looks nice and 'old' now.

    Re-fitted the front wheel and put it back in, the bike is now back on its wheels!

    More to come...

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    Love this thread...

    EDIT - Can you work out from the codes on the tyres (if they are legible) how old they are?
    We will never be here again - have a good look around

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    Blimey ..... Steve's got a new shed
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