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RedRick Esq. · Jul 4, 2015

JohnnyBoxer said:
Why didn't BMW put shaft drive on the XR ?

Surely that would give it more appeal?

Nasty oily & messy chains

Taking your question seriously

Probably because they want to compete or better the M Strada and a shaft loses so many of the horses and some of the instantaneous delivery of them that to do better than the MS a chain was needed !

I don't see chains as too much of a hassle these days as long as some maintenance is done 20k is achievable and lets be fair here a chain and sprocket set is much cheaper than final drive and bearings etc etc replacement

JohnnyBoxer · Jul 4, 2015

But chains are a butt pain, as long as the shaft drive is pretty reliable - it's much better, must be

Took the rear off my GSA this week - 3-4 mins
Refitted it ~ 3-4 mins & my hands were clean

On my chain driven bikes removing & refitting the rear wheel is a major PITA

Dismantle everything - remember which spacer goes where & lay out according for re assembly

Grease everything before re assembly, line up all the spacers, whilst balancing the wheel etc, slide the spindle in

You need 3 hands, really & it takes at least 10-20 mins if the spacers don't drop out

After all that, your hands & forearms are covered in chain lube

In addition there's all that lubing & adjusting & messy lube all over the rear wheel & back of the bike

Major PITA chains are

Micky · Jul 4, 2015

JohnnyBoxer said:
But chains are a butt pain, as long as the shaft drive is pretty reliable - it's much better, must be

Took the rear off my GSA this week - 3-4 mins
Refitted it ~ 3-4 mins & my hands were clean

On my chain driven bikes removing & refitting the rear wheel is a major PITA

Dismantle everything - remember which spacer goes where & lay out according for re assembly

Grease everything before re assembly, line up all the spacers, whilst balancing the wheel etc, slide the spindle in

You need 3 hands, really & it takes at least 10-20 mins if the spacers don't drop out

After all that, your hands & forearms are covered in chain lube

In addition there's all that lubing & adjusting & messy lube all over the rear wheel & back of the bike

Major PITA chains are

Ha ha ha

We can't have a banker getting his hands dirty now can we

JohnnyBoxer · Jul 4, 2015

Micky said:
Ha ha ha

We can't have a banker getting his hands dirty now can we

Shaft drive Mick, you know it makes perfect sense really

Pity they don't make the F8GS with a shaft

Micky · Jul 4, 2015

JohnnyBoxer said:
Shaft drive Mick, you know it makes perfect sense really

Pity they don't make the F8GS with a shaft

Nah .... My back end is as clean as any 1150/1200 what with their final drive dribbles

JohnnyBoxer · Jul 4, 2015

Micky said:
Nah .... My back end is as clean as any 1150/1200 what with their final drive dribbles

Speak for yourself about dribbles

In 1000's of miles from a R1100RS to a R12GSA - I don't recall you have much trouble with a shaft

Chains are for agricultural machinery

Lord Snooty · Jul 4, 2015

Agree with JB, alternatively why not fit belt drive. Longer life and none of that lubing and adjusting nonsense.

mrtee43 · Jul 4, 2015

Lord Snooty said:
Agree with JB, alternatively why not fit belt drive. Longer life and none of that lubing and adjusting nonsense.

Longer life ??? ask a few Buell owners about belts that are supposed to last !

Micky · Jul 4, 2015

JohnnyBoxer said:
Chains are for agricultural machinery

You'd better tell Rossi that then

SPL · Jul 6, 2015

JohnnyBoxer said:
But chains are a butt pain, as long as the shaft drive is pretty reliable - it's much better, must be

Took the rear off my GSA this week - 3-4 mins
Refitted it ~ 3-4 mins & my hands were clean

On my chain driven bikes removing & refitting the rear wheel is a major PITA

Dismantle everything - remember which spacer goes where & lay out according for re assembly

Grease everything before re assembly, line up all the spacers, whilst balancing the wheel etc, slide the spindle in

You need 3 hands, really & it takes at least 10-20 mins if the spacers don't drop out

After all that, your hands & forearms are covered in chain lube

In addition there's all that lubing & adjusting & messy lube all over the rear wheel & back of the bike

Major PITA chains are

Most of this is fixed without needing a shaft drive if the chain drive bike has a single sided swinger as with the Multistrada.
I did as many miles on the Duke as I did on my GS and didn't see the chain as much of an issue to be honest (using dry lube).

Plus a single sider just looks so much better - the lack of one won't stop me buying the XR though.

Deleted account 211025001 · Jul 6, 2015

Only on a WMB forum can performance come secondary to cleanliness :blast

Andres

iandavid · Jul 6, 2015

Fond memories of me as a spotty 16yr old with my mums best roasting tray, graphite grease and the Triumph chain, slowly baking in the oven to melt the grease and get it into the chain. Can't understand why she was more than a little upset. Just cos it stunk the kitchen and oven out, no sense of humour these wimmin

Pauly S · Jul 16, 2015

iandavid said:
Fond memories of me as a spotty 16yr old with my mums best roasting tray, graphite grease and the Triumph chain, slowly baking in the oven to melt the grease and get it into the chain. Can't understand why she was more than a little upset. Just cos it stunk the kitchen and oven out, no sense of humour these wimmin

been there done that! ooof feck.

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