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Following on from Redboots' pointer towards the Touren Fahrer routes, I thought it might be handy if I lumped all the German(ish) sites I have used in the past for stealing ideas from into one place.

https://www.tourenfahrer.de/motorrad-reisen/tour-datenbank/

http://www.road-concept.eu/road-concept.html

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showth...e-touring-maps-Free-download-PDF-s-into-iBook Also known as ADAC maps

https://m.louis.de/fuer-die-motorradreise/tourentipps

http://maps.motorradonline.de

http://kurvenkoenig.de This is a big one. The PDF descriptions of the routes download very well. I dumped them onto my iPad, along with lots of others. See separate thread on how to use the website: https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/506359-How-to-download-Kurvenkoenig-routes

Then, for all sorts of stuff:

http://www.bikerbetten.de

Here's some other suggested whole tour routes. Some of them might require some work to get into a GPS format but nothing that can't be done:

Half-timbered house route

Got a link to this site from the German Tourist Board, some quite interesting routes leading from Northern Germany down as far as the black Forest

www.deutsche-fachwerkstrasse.de


German Avenue Route

Whilst I was riding my lap of Germany I kept coming across a typical brown 'tourist' German sign, telling me I was sometimes riding along parts of the Deutsche Alleenstrasse or the 'German Avenue Route'.

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Sometimes it would be 100's of miles between the signs, which - I guessed - meant it (whatever it was) covered a large area. I wasn't wrong!

Now I'm back I've Googled it up.

http://www.alleenstrasse.com/routen.php

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Avenue_Road

Here's the ADAC site, which has a shortcut to a pretty good PDF download of the whole route:

https://www.adac.de/reise_freizeit/attraktionen/touren_traumstrassen/deutsche_alleenstrasse/

It might be fun to ride it all, one day. Post #22 in this thread:

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/437281-Deutsche-Alleenstrasse/page2

Deutsche Fehnroute

Whilst hunting for information on routes and rides around North Germany, I tripped over the 'Deutsche Fehnroute', which - as far as I can make out - is a circular route of about 180 km's across the German equivalent of our Fens.

It seems to be designed for bicycles but appears to be open to vehicles, too.

Might be worth a look, perhaps? If nothing else it's attractive and different than just blasting to the Black Forest..... again!

http://www.deutsche-fehnroute.de/unsere-fehnroute.html

I don't speak German but got as far as downloading the PDF successfully, by guessing I had to tick all the boxes if I wanted all the details.

I'll have a go at writing to the tourist office to see if I can get some more information, too.



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See http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/437286-Deutsche-Fehnroute post #2 for Lee's version of the route


The Harz

Whilst looking for something else, I tripped over this site. It has some pretty good, clearly set out, suggestions.

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showth...y-of-Harz-Point-website?p=5173792#post5173792







Now some of those all important 'Von biker, fur biker' hotels:

http://www.tourenfahrer-hotels.de

https://www.mein-tourenhotel.de


http://www.mein-tourenhotel.de/motorrad-hotels_in_deutschland

http://m.moho.info/en

http://www.thebikerguide.co.uk/bikerfriendlyaccommodationgermany.html
 
The PDF downloads available from some of the sites work really well on an iPad, when loaded into iBook. From there it's easy enough to copy pieces and / or use one of the Professional' PDF apps to make some changes. Copy the amended or cut out pieces into Word / Pages / whatever and you've built yourself a trip file.
 
Heres even more to add to the list of sites.
http://bikerszene.de/touren/Motorradtouren-Deutschland/Harz. It covers multiple regions. I have selected Harz, for obvious reasons.
This one can be filtered for regions and even shows you which bikermate rode it/contributed I guess.
Just toggle the touren and biker buttons on and off.
GPX downloads available
 
Thank you. Excactly the sort of stuff I hoped that this sticky thread would throw up.

Your post shows just how much information there is out there, floating around on the internet.
 
not sure if this is mentioned or is in another format, but this came up on one of my searches
The German Motorbike Route, nicknamed "Pan Germania", is the route all trendsetters should have saved in their sat nav. Around 10,000 km of sheer driving pleasure, which has much in common with the spirit of the legendary "Route 66", lies ahead. The route was officially opened in 2004 by none other than the brilliant German motorcycle design engineer Friedel Münch during the traditional Vogelsberg Motorbike Festival.


http://www.germany.travel/en/leisure-and-recreation/scenic-routes/german-motorbike-route.html
 
I love all this stuff.

Heading for the Beemer weekend in July at Garmisch-Partenkirchen and recently spent a happy evening with one booking dotcom site to slot in all my hotels between Ijmuiden and Garmisch and back again.

Includes the Beemer museum in Munich, a night half way through Grossglockner, a squirt through Bremmer, the B500 and a chug up the Mosel.

Plus a quiet weekend sinking a few beers at Garmisch :beerjug:
 
The Germans certainly have got their motorcycle touring websites, forums and magazines sorted out; some are indeed, excellent.

RiDE is the only (mainstream) magazine in the UK doing something similar. Others, like Adventure Bike Rider, are trying to do something but they are lagging behind. With the easy availabity of good maps, decent electronic publishing and - hopefully - some half decent imaginative journalism, it should be possible.
 
Found a nice little link on the harzpoint website. It lists all the Biker Treffs (Caf's) and then gives you a clear indication of whether they have outdoor, indoor or outdoor covered seating in a very easy to see quick look key format. Click further for location, or details on the caf. As well as a details page where you can read about the place. Then further on, it lists what roads are very close by with a neat mini map and even a gps download for it. So impressed with the detail, they even give you tips on whether the police presence is high. There is also a neat table of roads that are rated by scenery, surface, curves etc. All very well linked for all. I am stumped though by the key for " Petrol Talk" You reckon that's petrolhead chat?
http://www2.harzpoint.de/motorrad/bikertreffs.html
http://www2.harzpoint.de/motorrad/harz-motorrad-strecken.html

Note: As at October 2018 the links no longer work.
 

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Thanks for that.

Advice to anyone: Copy the PDF’s now, as sometimes the websites are closed or moved, rendering old hot links redundant. The PDF’s copy really easily into iBooks.
 
Invest a few euro in getting one, perhaps?

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The route suggestions carry links that will open in Kurviger (see other threads and posts)
 
I ordered both books last week on the 6th, which turned up this morning. It was all very easy via the Louis.de website.

Worth the few euro they cost, I’d say.

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That the routes each carry codes that interlink with Kurviger, from where you can easily transfer them to a GPS device or run them from a smart phone is a big bikermate bonus, too.
 
While I was touring Germany last year I bought a pack of maps (see pics below). They are very good and also the size of them folded make them more convenient for sliding in your tank map pocket. As you can see they come in a handy zipped packing case. Also at intermot this year there was the stand below (see pics) as you can see they have some really good maps and guides. The touring maps come with all the routes already highlighted on map. I took the pics for posting when I do my ride report but seems more appropriate in this thread.
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When I did my lap of Germany two years ago, using some very small roads on the Baltic coast, the maps you mention (I have a set) were often the only ones that showed them.

Very good value. Recommended.

I have several of the books and maps shown in your picture from the show, too. Again, good value.
 
Map/routes Germany, Alps, Austria etc etc

Richard or one of the mods if this is in the wrong place please remove.

Guy/Gals you may or may not know of this site https://www.bikeratlas.de/touren scroll down to the map on the link page, click on any of the countries in the boxes on the map, it opens to next map, again click on one of the boxes this will then display routes as a red and white tear drops, hover your mouse over one of these and the route will appear, now click on it and a box will open up with the words (ZUR TOUR) in it, click on that and it will open a detailed map and itinerary of said route go to the top right hand corner of the map where it says gps download, and download and save as a .kml file once done use an online converter to convert .kml to .gpx (this will usually end up as a list of numbered way points) use base camp or other software to join waypoints to make the route and there you have it, a bit long winded i know but there are some good routes of which the majority are in Germany Austria and Switzerland.

You can do pretty much the same from this web site as well https://www.alpentourer.eu/ go to tour tips at the top of the page and scroll through, its a different procedure to download but you should be able to work it out.
 
Map/routes

A nice find, thank you.

As Lee says, very easy to do. Here are screen shots in the same order, made on an iPad by split screening it.

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It’s nice being able to open the routes in Google Earth, too:

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And zoom in:

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Old style bods, who don’t, won’t or can’t use a GPS should find it really easy to trace the routes out on a paper map, to create their own plan on the back of an old envelope, using a stubby pencil.

I see, if I guess what the foreign says, that there are 399 routes in all. It’d be a labour of love to cut them all into GPS friendly route files.

If you scroll down the page you can click on the individual tours a different way but to the same end.

But it’s all in foreign, mate! Yup, ‘fraid so. But, highlight the text, copy it and put it into Google translate, preferably chosing English as the language you’d like the foreign to be translated into. Job done.

PS The GPS download tab thing isn’t always on the upper right on every map. But, you’ll find it.
 
Just as an aside on Lee’s link to the Alpentourer magazine website’s ’tourtips’ site. You can pick the excellent magazine up for ‘free’ via the Readly app.

Again, it’s in foreign but, like me, you can look at the pictures and employ some imagination.
 


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