Given nobody's bought a black one (I think), one passed me today and it looked very smart
Thank you for your contribution to the thread g00ner ....
My Africa Twin, right now, is the best bike, right now, for me, right now.
At least they all agreed the KTM was a good bike ....
I voted for the black one
Glad to hear it... How many miles have you put on it
+1......Get on a bike you like or have and ride it!
Odd how our "brand loyalty " can be so strong that some criticise the AT without even test riding it ! As someone else wisely observed; "motorcycling remains pathetically tribal-for some people!"
The review, (April 16) is the usual high standard of writing and photography we've come to expect from BIKE. I love their mag, especially the iPad format with extra links and content (compared to the paper one).
Curious how the one massive AT USP, or strength, is the new gearbox and "Bike" writer Mike Armitage didn't try the Honda DCT.
I'm thrilled that Honda have finally produced something special, after years of arguable mediocrity. (perhaps leaning on the accolades for the fireblade?).
The AT service intervals are impressive, so apparently are the ergonomics and engineering quality. I'd love to test ride one.
Funny, but I suspect that's going to be a load of hassle with my Honda dealer, unlike the easy process its become at the BMW dealer.
I do think the slender nature of the bike, off-road wheel sizes, low gearing and off-road bias, in my way of thinking - have it as an alternate to the splendid F800GS rather than the R1200GS.
I'm also excited when Triumph, KTM, others launch new bikes.
Honda have missed millions of Yen of revenue since they "lost their way" a decade ago.
They are, imho, playing "catch up". The offerings from KTM and BMW are very hard to match. Impossible to beat perhaps.
The AT looks like a great bike and I understand why arsey, and others, have bought one. Until I ride one I cant judge.
For some bmw enthusiasts on the forum, clearly the AT is a non-starter due;
* lack of shaft drive (who desires a return to chain hassles?)
* tubed tyres (arguably "dated", less safe , harder to repair on-the-road)
* lack of HP (who wants less than their current bike?)
* lack of cruise control (I use mine a lot - to avoid acquiring points on all those grotty average speed traps that populate our roads)
* "yesterdays" power to weight " ratio ( see what KTM are offering!)
* a feeling that Honda dealers that are stuck in the 1980's wrt branding, service, image, comfort
* lack of integrated sat nav (I like the BMW integration)
Odd how our "brand loyalty " can be so strong that some criticise the AT without even test riding it ! As someone else wisely observed; "motorcycling remains pathetically tribal-for some people!"
The review, (April 16) is the usual high standard of writing and photography we've come to expect from BIKE. I love their mag, especially the iPad format with extra links and content (compared to the paper one).
Curious how the one massive AT USP, or strength, is the new gearbox and "Bike" writer Mike Armitage didn't try the Honda DCT.
I'm thrilled that Honda have finally produced something special, after years of arguable mediocrity. (perhaps leaning on the accolades for the fireblade?).
The AT service intervals are impressive, so apparently are the ergonomics and engineering quality. I'd love to test ride one.
Funny, but I suspect that's going to be a load of hassle with my Honda dealer, unlike the easy process its become at the BMW dealer.
I do think the slender nature of the bike, off-road wheel sizes, low gearing and off-road bias, in my way of thinking - have it as an alternate to the splendid F800GS rather than the R1200GS.
I'm also excited when Triumph, KTM, others launch new bikes.
Honda have missed millions of Yen of revenue since they "lost their way" a decade ago.
They are, imho, playing "catch up". The offerings from KTM and BMW are very hard to match. Impossible to beat perhaps.
The AT looks like a great bike and I understand why arsey, and others, have bought one. Until I ride one I cant judge.
For some bmw enthusiasts on the forum, clearly the AT is a non-starter due;
* lack of shaft drive (who desires a return to chain hassles?)
* tubed tyres (arguably "dated", less safe , harder to repair on-the-road)
* lack of HP (who wants less than their current bike?)
* lack of cruise control (I use mine a lot - to avoid acquiring points on all those grotty average speed traps that populate our roads)
* "yesterdays" power to weight " ratio ( see what KTM are offering!)
* a feeling that Honda dealers that are stuck in the 1980's wrt branding, service, image, comfort
* lack of integrated sat nav (I like the BMW integration)
Why do you feel the need to blip the throttle at the lights??!!
Why do you feel the need to blip the throttle at the lights??!!