A day on the Africa Twin.........

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So, I've just got back from a day on the Africa Twin. Dropped the Grom off first thing, for a few jobs, then put 240 miles on the AT, on all types of road, mainly nadgery tracks with gravel & grass down the middle.

It was a 65 plate manual, wih 3000 miles on the clock, for reference.

After a couple of miles, I got used to the feel of it, threading in and out of some traffic in town. Throttle was a bit snatchy, but I'll get used to that.

I then got to some familiar roads, so got a chance to open it up. It's definitely quick enough (127 on the speedo several times seemed to be at its limit), and the stock exhaust had a good sound to it. A full system would sound even better! One thing I noticed very quickly is how easy this bike is to ride. A few more miles under my belt on it, and it was as if it was mine, and it felt good.

I had a good look round the bike, and it's well put together. The spokes were all corroded, but that's been discussed, and I believe that there is a fix on the way. This bike has been through a winter already, and had a couple of rusty bolts, but the finish of the bike was generally very good.

The snatchy throttle didn't go away, and remained for the rest of the day. The brakes were OK, but could be much better. Someone in a Q7 nearly had an imprint of an Africa Twin in the side of them, but we managed to stop in time. Just!

I don't know what tyres were on the bike, but they seemed OK most of the time, but did manage to step out on a couple of dry, non gravelly bends, which was strange. I thought about the chap that hated his AT, then fell back in love after changing the tyres.

Overall, I really liked the bike. Much much more than I thought I would. It was great fun on some familiar roads, and certainly a bike that I could spend more time on.

Would I get one? Never say never. I wouldn't replace the GSA with one, but I'd like to try the DCT version, and consider it as an addition, rather than a replacement.
 

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Good review Nutty.

I also rode one recently albeit for 20ish urban miles only and it was dct (my aim in fact was to compare its newer dct software to my Integra 750). Bike belongs to a neighbour so did not want to take too much time liberty.

I also,like it. I think it is of great material quality and assembly. Better than my K1600 and assuminlgly my upcoming GS. I also found the power enough, and way better delievered than the 750 parallel twin equivalent on my scoot. Brakes I also noted as a weak point, again same as the Integra. In fact this is for me probably the weakest point. Those brakes feel as if the come from 20years ago.

I also agree with your conclusion. A very nice easy to ride bike, not a GS rival imo, potentially a complement. But not in dct format.
 
Nice report Richard, i'm pleased you liked it, and you know where I live when you want to try the DCT out,:D

ps, hope that 127 mph was on a private road or was it off road ;) nice pics too,
 
Fair play fella :thumb I thought it was a very well composed, very refined light feeling bike. I can see why there there are comparisons drawn between the A/T and the 950/990 ADV as they have a similar character, the A/T airing on the side of pleasant, the KTM airing on the side of fun :green gri

Sadly we all know what will happen to this thread within the next 10 posts or so :blast
 
It's a good bike but no replacement for the all round capabilities of the GS because it has a more off-road bias, why people get upset when this is pointed out is a mystery.
 
I did wonder if the feeling of a lack of braking capacity (which I also experienced) is due to the bike feeling much more nimble and lighter than it really is which means your expectations when you hit the anchors are inline with this nimble and light experience however in reality it's trying to stop GS weight.
 
Fair play fella :thumb I thought it was a very well composed, very refined light feeling bike. I can see why there there are comparisons drawn between the A/T and the 950/990 ADV as they have a similar character, the A/T airing on the side of pleasant, the KTM airing on the side of fun :green gri

Sadly we all know what will happen to this thread within the next 10 posts or so :blast

I think you mean the very next post
 
great write up….you actually wrote a line in future tense stating " I will get used to that " !!! so let us know when its next to the GSA and S1000XR ! :D
 
It's a good bike but no replacement for the all round capabilities of the GS because it has a more off-road bias, why people get upset when this is pointed out is a mystery.

Why ? Well just because it's perhaps a lot better off road than its competition ( I'm not saying it is by the way , you are and obviously quite a lot of journos ) that does not necessarily mean it's a lot worse on road. To put it another way if its say 15% better off road than some of its competition that does not necessarily mean it's worse on road by the same corresponding 15% amount.

At which point I am sure you will probably say something like " no it's more like 25% worse on road " or words to that effect . Fill your boots :thumb

Nice honest write up Nutty :thumb2
 
Well to be honest I find mine excellent on the road
It's super smooth, agile, great on fuel, deceptively quick, great fun offroad, and is a great looker
I would only chose the GS over it for a 2 up long distance trip...and for that I would take the S10
I have had a lot of bikes over the years and this is one of the best to ride IMHO :rob

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It's a good bike but no replacement for the all round capabilities of the GS because it has a more off-road bias, why people get upset when this is pointed out is a mystery.

I'd actually say that it's a very good bike on the road. The way it soaks up pot holes and bumps on nadgery back roads was very impressive.:clap
 
Your demo has the crap oe Dunlops fitted.....awful tyres IMO. My throttle is as smooth as they come, but as the above, it is impressive in the suspension dept. BIKE commentated in awarding it their bike if 2016 that it's really a return to the big trailie rather than one of the current large adventure bikes.


Impartial write-up, Nutster...:beerjug:
 
Nadgery back roads is where it excels, that's where I ride most of the time and it's perfect for that, with just enough power for me on fast A roads.
Like all bikes ergonomics are a personal thing and fits me like a glove, it looks smaller than it is, mines a DCT which adds a different dimension to its riding as well.
Thanks for the impartial option nutty :beerjug:
 
Your demo has the crap oe Dunlops fitted.....awful tyres IMO. My throttle is as smooth as they come, but as the above, it is impressive in the suspension dept. BIKE commentated in awarding it their bike if 2016 that it's really a return to the big trailie rather than one of the current large adventure bikes.


Impartial write-up, Nutster...:beerjug:

I thought they probably would be the Dunlops, after experiencing the rear stepping out.:thumb

Re the throttle, an AT owner has told me that there's a plug that Honda supply which fixes this.

Re the suspension, I'm still impressed today. Bearing in mind I suffer from back problems, and spent most of the day on rough, bumpy roads, I'd normally pay the price the next day, but today I don't feel too bad. Now, when I ride those roads on the XR, the next day is a different story!:D
 
Good write up,Nutster.I knew you'd 'get it' just as I knew the likes of the Village Idiot wouldn't !
It must be pretty special seeing as it's won every award going and was the biggest selling two wheeler of any cc until the earthquake in Japan suspended play.
I've had bikes for 36 years and my DCT version is one of the very finest road bikes I've ever ridden.
Mine has been to the Outer Hebrides and down to the Dolomites and Garda and has been ridden on every road surface possible from autoroutes to the steepest col in Europe and from solo to very heavy two up and there isn't another bike in production that could have coped better.
Ok,the front brake is a tad weak and the OE Dunlops were shite in the wet,but fitting Conti TA2s has made a good bike utterly brilliant.
Never had any throttle snatch on mine,and the DCT takes the bike to another level and also makes it the best two up bike I've had.
The fact that the AT is also by far the best big adventure style bike off road is just another feather in it's cap and one I'm looking forward to exploring next month.


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Yes good stuff Nutty.
It is defineatley high on my list when I treat myself to my first ever brand new bike in18 months time. Not only is it getting great reviews it is two thirds of the price of the equivalent GS new which makes it very hard to ignore.

I would love to ride a brand spanking GS TB out of our local dealership but will struggle to justify it at the current prices.

I want a black manual AT and I will refer to it as the twin black :augie
 
I'd actually say that it's a very good bike on the road. The way it soaks up pot holes and bumps on nadgery back roads was very impressive.:clap

I would disagree that it is a very good road bike - a good one yes, but there are many more aspects to a road bike - with the ATs off-road bias one would expect it to 'soak up' pot holes as an absolute minimum requirement, it would be useless off-road if it didn't! I have ridden an AT on the road and it is ok but it is not a general purpose all road bike like the GS.
 
I too have one and I think its a great road bike, comfy plenty power for touring and quite.
 
I would disagree that it is a very good road bike - a good one yes, but there are many more aspects to a road bike - with the ATs off-road bias one would expect it to 'soak up' pot holes as an absolute minimum requirement, it would be useless off-road if it didn't! I have ridden an AT on the road and it is ok but it is not a general purpose all road bike like the GS.

That depends what you want from a road bike. I've ridden plenty of crap road bikes in the past, the AT is comfortable on all types of road. The GSA is my choice for the ultimate all rounder, but the AT would certainly make a good second bike.
 


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