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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsey View Post
    Done about 1000 miles this week on my T120 to Ardennes and back .
    I’m pleased with the bike BUT why do Triumph still insist on fitting shit suspension to a Ł10k bike ?

    I had a Triumph Scrambler in 2008 and that was the same and I remember fitting progressive fork springs and changing the rear shocks and this T120 is no better .

    On smooth roads it’s fine but on anything else it kicks you out of the seat on occasion.

    I know I can sort it for a few hundred quid but why should you have too ?

    Shame ,as the motor is lovely,it’s comfy for long days in the saddle and I’ve been getting 220 miles to empty out of a tank,which is amazing as it’s only 14 litres !
    Yep

    Thought you might come to that conclusion after your trip

    Same for me, love the bike but the suspension has to get changed

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    Quote Originally Posted by leadfarmer View Post
    Yep

    Thought you might come to that conclusion after your trip

    Same for me, love the bike but the suspension has to get changed
    Not good enough though !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsey View Post
    Not good enough though !
    Indeed, I don't expect the same as the Thruxton R but they could do better for the price

    This will be the first bike I've ever had to change the standard suspension on

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    The harshness of the ride on that Scrambler added to it's demise......

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    Right then, I’ve ordered some bits

    Got a pair of Wilbers progressive fork springs coming from here:
    http://www.mecadata.com/3135065-ress...t-120-du-01-16

    And a pair of IKON 7610 series shocks coming from here:
    (Cheaper than the French importer)
    http://www.classicbike-raisch.de/en/...streett.?c=176

    I went for the IKONs over Bitubo and YSS finally as they have progressive springs, finger adjustable rebound damping and an old style cam preload adjuster rather than threaded rings, so they are quick and easy to set for 1 or 2 up riding

    I’ve read a lot of good reviews about them and of course they look “period” for the bike

    Thanks to Andres for suggesting them in another thread
    http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthr...?highlight=yss

    I’ll see how it feels once they arrive and I get a chance to fit them

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    T100 - T120 Round 2

    Dropped the new fork springs in tonight, took about half an hour ......here's how if you're going to do it yourself

    You will need: a ratchet or torque wrench if you're posh, a 30mm socket, a 14mm open ended spanner,, a 5mm Allen key, a coat hanger




    Pop the bike on the center stand, no need for a lift or straps

    Put a towel or something on the tank to avoid tears before bedtime

    Do 1 side at a time to keep the forks extended

    Just crack the 5 mm Allen screws holding the levers and they can be moved out of the way enough to do the job

    Undo the left fork cap and remove in order, one steel spacer tube, one plate washer, one plastic spacer tube, a second plate washer and finally the spring (use the coat hanger to make a hook)



    Put the new spring in with the tight coils at the top

    Put all the bits back in in the right order and tighten the cap back down

    The right hand fork has the damping rod inside

    Undo the fork cap then crack off the 14 mm lock nut underneath it, now you can unscrew the fork cap from the end of the damping rod



    Remove in order, one plastic spacer tube, one plate washer, the spring

    Put the new spring and all the bits back in the right order

    Screw the fork cap back on to the damping rod then tighten the lock nut up underneath it

    Screw the fork cap back down

    Position your levers and nip the Allen screws back up

    Job's a good 'un

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    No change to the oil grade or air gap then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenman14 View Post
    No change to the oil grade or air gap then?
    No, didn't want to go to the trouble of dropping the forks out and I don't think there are any drain plugs
    Wilbers recommend SAE 5 and the factory oil is 10 so not too heavy

    The ride is improved and the steering and stability are greatly improved with just the springs,

    it goes where you want with far less effort and holds a line much better

    I'm surprised at the improvement as I haven't received the shocks yet so the back end is still like a pogo stick

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    Quote Originally Posted by leadfarmer View Post
    No, didn't want to go to the trouble of dropping the forks out and I don't think there are any drain plugs
    Wilbers recommend SAE 5 and the factory oil is 10 so not too heavy

    The ride is improved and the steering and stability are greatly improved with just the springs,

    it goes where you want with far less effort and holds a line much better

    I'm surprised at the improvement as I haven't received the shocks yet so the back end is still like a pogo stick
    Report further when you fit the shocks .Ta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsey View Post
    Report further when you fit the shocks .Ta
    Put the shocks on but haven't had time to test them much as yet

    I did go for a first test ride on a particularly shite bumpy bit of road I know with lots of bends where even the GS feels rough
    The ride was greatly improved straight out of the box on the 1st preload position but the steering had slowed maybe a tad , it didn't bottom out at all but was maybe a tad soft

    I set the Preload to 2 out of 3 which quickened the steering back up nicely and set the rebound damping to 2 out of 4
    I then basically rode it like a mental case down the same road and it was great, ended up thrashing the tits off the poor thing, first time it's ever been red lined

    Not had chance to try it 2 up yet but I have plenty of adjustment left if I need any, I'm nicely in the middle of the operating range of the shocks, I chose the IKONs because I can adjust them in seconds if I need to

    Very pleased with the over all result so far, the ride is much smoother than stock and the handling is far lighter and far more precise, definitely money well spent, the bike now feels as it should have done from the factory

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    Quote Originally Posted by leadfarmer View Post
    Put the shocks on but haven't had time to test them much as yet

    I did go for a first test ride on a particularly shite bumpy bit of road I know with lots of bends where even the GS feels rough
    The ride was greatly improved straight out of the box on the 1st preload position but the steering had slowed maybe a tad , it didn't bottom out at all but was maybe a tad soft

    I set the Preload to 2 out of 3 which quickened the steering back up nicely and set the rebound damping to 2 out of 4
    I then basically rode it like a mental case down the same road and it was great, ended up thrashing the tits off the poor thing, first time it's ever been red lined

    Not had chance to try it 2 up yet but I have plenty of adjustment left if I need any, I'm nicely in the middle of the operating range of the shocks, I chose the IKONs because I can adjust them in seconds if I need to

    Very pleased with the over all result so far, the ride is much smoother than stock and the handling is far lighter and far more precise, definitely money well spent, the bike now feels as it should have done from the factory

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    Great.Thanks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsey View Post
    Great.Thanks for that.
    Thinking of doing something similar to yours ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leadfarmer View Post
    Thinking of doing something similar to yours ?
    Either that or selling it.Still pisses me off that on a Ł10k bike,Triumph don't deem it necessary to fit adequate suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsey View Post
    Either that or selling it.Still pisses me off that on a Ł10k bike,Triumph don't deem it necessary to fit adequate suspension.
    Shame

    Mine's growing on me more and more, bloody love the thing

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    Are the IKON shocks the same length as the OE ones? I may well do these mods over the winter. I've also just ordered a pair of Alpina tubeless wheels, and Remus slip on silencers. Ah well 'in for a penny, in for a pound'.........it's like having a Harley all over again

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatal View Post
    Are the IKON shocks the same length as the OE ones? I may well do these mods over the winter. I've also just ordered a pair of Alpina tubeless wheels, and Remus slip on silencers. Ah well 'in for a penny, in for a pound'.........it's like having a Harley all over again
    I think fully extended they are actually 345mm so 6mm shorter than stock which are 351mm

    That doesn't mean much though as they are always compressed with the weight of the bike and rider

    I haven't checked sag or anything else technical, I'm just judging by seat of pants, I did one end at a time to be sure I knew what difference each change made and identify any problems

    Happily the parts I chose seem to work perfectly together, both are bike specific

    Note the fork springs are the Wilbers zero friction not the Promoto, some sites are a little vague about which ones they are selling

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