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    Its just not fair. Folk should be allowed to break the laws that they dont agree with. Im going to write a sternly worded letter to the law ombudsman

    Anyone know his address?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear View Post
    Its just not fair. Folk should be allowed to break the laws that they dont agree with. Im going to write a sternly worded letter to the law ombudsman

    Anyone know his address?
    All those scumbags steeling motorcycles in London are allowed to get away with their crimes and the police won't even chase after them. It seems the police are selective about which 'criminals' they decide should be caught and punished and those who should be allowed to continue doing as they please.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one to feel that the police choose to punish those who are likely to have had their bike stolen and to do very little to catch and stop the real law breaking scumbags doing it over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear View Post
    Its just not fair. Folk should be allowed to break the laws that they don't agree with.
    Quote Originally Posted by SteveC10 View Post
    I'm sure I'm not the only one to feel that the police choose to punish those who are likely to have had their bike stolen and to do very little to catch and stop the real law breaking scumbags
    And there we have our proof, And it only took 56 mins

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    Have to agree with Brut33. They are not SAFETY cameras, they are fund raising cameras, nearly always placed carefully (sneakily hidden and disguised) to catch and fine rather than deter and inform. There are rarely, if at all, placed near schools, accident black spots etc, rather more often on nice stretches of road, or at the bottom of a hill where you may have picked up a bit of speed.
    I was nabbed on the Easingwold bypass at 7:50 on a Saturday morning... a three mile stretch of clear good visibility road, the only vehicle moving on it was me, the only other vehicle in site was a white (unmarked) van in the layby. 66 in a 60.... not sure just how much safety was addressed on that bright clear wide very low traffic no pedestrian road that morning.... but I did the crime so paid my fine.
    Perhaps a bright well marked van with a blue light on top would have deterred me, but they have learned that deterrence raises no fines....
    .... the cynicism of calling them safety cameras wrankles with me.
    New police approach all about money. Filming and fining does obviously not stop it or they would not have invested in more vans.
    Car gets nicked, you get an incident number, house burgled, you get an incident number. Costs too much to deal with that sort of crime but where there is money to be made from a crime...

    Rant over.

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    It's a numbers game these days.
    I was involved in a working party about 25 years ago when the 'safety' cameras were first being brought out, back then it was about only siting them in areas where there had been numerous very serious and fatal RTAs where excessive speed had been the main cause. Trigger settings were also fairly generous in those days as well, and letters of caution were often sent instead of NIPs.
    My how things change, money talks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBeard View Post
    Does anyone know if the Garmin Cyclops subscription incorporates these?
    unlikely as they are 'mobile' , Garmin only pings for mobile camera zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBeard View Post
    Does anyone know if the Garmin Cyclops subscription incorporates these?
    I actually think it does.
    So long as the " revenue site" has been previously reported and listed on the cyclops database, you get a warning bong.

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    I think getting another jammer is the way forward. Apparently, it gives the speed gun operator an error message when they use it on a vehicle fitted with one. It would nice to have one which gives the speed gun operator a message saying 'Up Yours'!

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    There's night vision on the new cameras as well so you can't even bugger about at night and get away with it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBoxer View Post
    Side,back,forward..................the operator, notes your reg number down if you're on a bike
    How does that work? No evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooperman View Post
    How does that work? No evidence?
    Some of the silver transits (hi roof) have the digital speed camera out of the back doors, but they also have ANPR cameras on both sides which point both fore & aft plus cameras in the front above the cab

    All the other cameras when used in conjunction the speed camera image and the witness statement from the operator (& maybe a date/time stamped hand held camera) is enough to prove which bike has committed the offence

    Had a look at one last year, the NYP Vans are very sophisticated and cost £50-60k each
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBoxer View Post
    Some of the silver transits (hi roof) have the digital speed camera out of the back doors, but they also have ANPR cameras on both sides which point both fore & aft plus cameras in the front above the cab

    All the other cameras when used in conjunction the speed camera image and the witness statement from the operator (& maybe a date/time stamped hand held camera) is enough to prove which bike has committed the offence

    Had a look at one last year, the NYP Vans are very sophisticated and cost £50-60k each
    I was thinking the operator is a civilian and so their hand written evidence would be worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatal View Post
    It's a numbers game these days.
    I was involved in a working party about 25 years ago when the 'safety' cameras were first being brought out, back then it was about only siting them in areas where there had been numerous very serious and fatal RTAs where excessive speed had been the main cause. Trigger settings were also fairly generous in those days as well, and letters of caution were often sent instead of NIPs.
    My how things change, money talks
    I notice none were sited in St.Helens.

    Nice one Al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBoxer View Post
    Some of the silver transits (hi roof) have the digital speed camera out of the back doors, but they also have ANPR cameras on both sides which point both fore & aft plus cameras in the front above the cab

    All the other cameras when used in conjunction the speed camera image and the witness statement from the operator (& maybe a date/time stamped hand held camera) is enough to prove which bike has committed the offence

    Had a look at one last year, the NYP Vans are very sophisticated and cost £50-60k each
    They aren't transits.

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    More speed camera vans in N Yorks

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooperman View Post
    I was thinking the operator is a civilian and so their hand written evidence would be worthless.
    I think it was more sophisticated nowadays
    Plenty of bikes have been done from a forward facing camera even on a remote tripod, so it must stand up to legal scrutiny
    A few riders around here have been done, so I think their system works

    Stick to 20/30/40/50/60/70 and speed camera vans will not bother you

    Sadly as pointed earlier, speeding is becoming totally verboten in North Yorkshire - even on moorland roads

    Sign of the times
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    More speed camera vans in N Yorks

    Quote Originally Posted by 2gses View Post
    They aren't transits.
    Silver Hi Roof ones are I thought or maybe they are Trafics/Vivaros - they all look the same to me

    New ones in post 1 are compact vans like Connects, but haven't seen one of those yet

    I like the chap on the FJR 1300 with his tripod camera - always smiles when you give him a friendly wave
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