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    Quote Originally Posted by Steptoe View Post
    They thought they were covered as the grandmother had her EHIC and they thought Turkey was in the EU..
    It will be soon , mark my words.....

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    Neil W, I'd love to hear from anyone here that has managed to use the E111 card. ( though I admit its worth taking along) The Europeans, in my experience, will want to see an insurance policy or a credit card.


    They dont "play by the rules" . £30 billion a year, maybe more pissed away because we dont have the mechanisms (or the guts) to charge visitors when they come here

    Unfortunately the fucking, naive, incompetent NHS is wide open to abuse here .... they completely piss away tax payers hard earned money see here ;



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...are-fraud.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/heal...s-say-GPs.html

    https://fullfact.org/health/health-t...-and-who-pays/

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7485226.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by matchlessman View Post
    Sounds like scam, although spelling and punctuation are not bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen GS View Post
    Neil W, I'd love to hear from anyone here that has managed to use the E111 card. ( though I admit its worth taking along) The Europeans, in my experience, will want to see an insurance policy or a credit card.


    They dont "play by the rules" . £30 billion a year, maybe more pissed away because we dont have the mechanisms (or the guts) to charge visitors when they come here

    Unfortunately the fucking, naive, incompetent NHS is wide open to abuse here .... they completely piss away tax payers hard earned money see here ;



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...are-fraud.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/heal...s-say-GPs.html

    https://fullfact.org/health/health-t...-and-who-pays/

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7485226.html
    I think that most policies require that you try to play the Eurocard first (it has primacy), and they step in if required. So - you may be REQUIRED to have an E111 card to meet the requirements of the policy

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    Blackal , You are 100% correct ... an important point !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen GS View Post
    Blackal , You are 100% correct ... an important point !
    STUEY!!!!!!!!

    How you been dude?

    Place hasnt been the same since you left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen GS View Post
    Neil W, I'd love to hear from anyone here that has managed to use the E111 card. ( though I admit its worth taking along) The Europeans, in my experience, will want to see an insurance policy or a credit card.


    They dont "play by the rules" . £30 billion a year, maybe more pissed away because we dont have the mechanisms (or the guts) to charge visitors when they come here

    Unfortunately the fucking, naive, incompetent NHS is wide open to abuse here .... they completely piss away tax payers hard earned money see here ;



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...are-fraud.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/heal...s-say-GPs.html

    https://fullfact.org/health/health-t...-and-who-pays/

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7485226.html
    I know ones from work who have used E111 for basic stuff in both Germany and Austria (hospitals were satisfied just by the fact that they had the card ), as for the NHS being out of pocket regarding foreigners my wife works within the system and the amount of red tape and paperwork that is generated if they try to claim for a non EU resident using the system means in 99% of cases it is simpler to not bother.

    They had an American visitor who needed to see a doctor and required antibiotics (they paid for the prescription meds) and tried to pay the health centre for the consultation , however, there is no system in place to charge at source and they reckoned up and the cost in admin work would have been greater than the monies that could be claimed back (this was confirmed by the local NHS trust).
    Obviously for more extensive hospital treatment you would hope they would claim from the non EU visitors travel insurance but unlike in some countries we play fair and give them the treatment first before confirming that they can pay and then we are in no position to detain them to make them pay after they have been discharged from hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snelly View Post
    You could always discharge yourself from the hospital you happen to be in; get your mate with his tyranny van, and an old mattress in the back , to come and pick you , your bike , and your kit up; a pocket full of drugs and booze for the journey home; and the jobs a gud un
    Uncle Albert (one of the orignal old time UKGSers) did just that when he took his aunt to France for her 90th birthday.
    She fell and broke her hip as she crossed the road after getting out of his van.
    Trip to a french hospital, they wanted to admit her and operate.
    She was having none of it, so with the agreement of the hospital they dosed her up on all sorts of painkillers and stuck her in the back of Peters (uncle albert) plumbing van.

    He drove back to Orpington hospital, drove up to the A&E doors, had all the jobs worth's run out threatening him with all sorts and calling him an idiot for parking in the emergency bay and then he played his trump card, opened the back doors of his van and produced his aunty all strapped onto a stretcher
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    2002 French Alps, wife trips over out walkin at nearly 2000 metres. Helicopter to hospital, both bones at ankle pinned and plated, four nights in hospital, taxi from Bourg St Maurice to Geneva, four seats on a BA scheduled flight to Heathrow, taxi from Heathrow to Suffolk. The insurance sorted everything. When I got the bill for the helicopter (1800 euros) I just sent it to them, never heard any more.

    I came home on the bike, kids had been looking after the wife in the meantime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanqhar View Post

    I came home on the bike, kids had been looking after the wife in the meantime.

    Tom
    Sounds like a great holiday... I must try that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steptoe View Post
    Uncle Albert (one of the orignal old time UKGSers) did just that when he took his aunt to France for her 90th birthday.
    She fell and broke her hip as she crossed the road after getting out of his van.
    Trip to a french hospital, they wanted to admit her and operate.
    She was having none of it, so with the agreement of the hospital they dosed her up on all sorts of painkillers and stuck her in the back of Peters (uncle albert) plumbing van.

    He drove back to Orpington hospital, drove up to the A&E doors, had all the jobs worth's run out threatening him with all sorts and calling him an idiot for parking in the emergency bay and then he played his trump card, opened the back doors of his van and produced his aunty all strapped onto a stretcher
    That's priceless steppers; you've made my day with that one. The old uns new what it was all about.

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