Muc Off and other cleaning stuff

I've used Muc Off on all my bikes, over many years and have never had an issue. I've seen bikes that have had a problem that's been blamed on Muc Off when they've been cleaned when hot, or when cleaned in the sun, or the product has been left on too long when the cleaner has sprayed it on then fucked off for lunch, or a fag, or a wank

My tip is to hose the bike down, spray on the product, then wash it off, leaving it on for no more than 5 mins tops
 
Smogbob said:
Just got myself 5 litres of Muc Off, what do you reckon maximum time to leave it on the bike before rinsing off, before the bike melts.
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If you have to use Muc Off then thoroughly soak the bike first - apply Muc Off - quickly agitate into very dirty areas then thoroughly rinse off - don’t let it linger and DON’T ever let it start to dry. Never, ever apply it to a dry bike. If used wisely it will do no harm.
 
Engineer said:
If you have to use Muc Off then thoroughly soak the bike first - apply Muc Off - quickly agitate into very dirty areas then thoroughly rinse off - don’t let it linger and DON’T ever let it start to dry. Never, ever apply it to a dry bike. If used wisely it will do no harm.
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:beerjug::beerjug:
 
I've used Muc Off on all of my bikes for the past 10 - 11 years, never diluted it just sprayed it on and leave it for around 2 minutes. Use the jet wash after and never had any issues!! Most of the issues i've read about seem to be because the user has left it on the bike far too long before washing it down....

If you do the above it will not harm the bike at all...
 
hairysteve said:
I use Rhino Goo, available from Demon Tweeks. Stopped using Muc Off some time ago. If you do ever have corrosion problems don't admit to using Muc Off to your dealer if asked as it could affect any warranty claim.
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Rhino Goo:eek::eek::eek:

Isn't that banned under the endangered species act...:D
 
I’m quite surprised to read the comments about muck-off, I thought it was a good product. From the experience of people on here it’s seems to be quite the opposite. I can’t help but wonder why the finish on BMWs is such that it is easily damaged. I’ve used muck-off on my bikes never had a problem. I’m now wondering that as I’ve got a BMW have I bought an expensive pile of rust!


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Muc-Off will damage your bike, it will do it quickly if you dont follow instructions and slower if you do, with a progressive ageing effect of your bikes finish, blacks go grey & silver loses its lustre, it would be very noticeable if you could take 2 identical new bikes and treat one to regular cleaning with muc-off and the other cleaned with traditional methods and compare them after say 3 years, the paintwork and finishes of the "Muc-Off machine will be noticebly degaded when compared to the other bike.
The last owner of my bike used Muc-Off and I,m still putting it right
 
Easyrider5258 said:
Muc-Off will damage your bike, it will do it quickly if you dont follow instructions and slower if you do, with a progressive ageing effect of your bikes finish, blacks go grey & silver loses its lustre, it would be very noticeable if you could take 2 identical new bikes and treat one to regular cleaning with muc-off and the other cleaned with traditional methods and compare them after say 3 years, the paintwork and finishes of the "Muc-Off machine will be noticebly degaded when compared to the other bike.
The last owner of my bike used Muc-Off and I,m still putting it right
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After reading all the comments, I think I’ll not be using muck-off. What do you recommend and which shampoo do you recommend as I’ve heard some of these can be as bad? Cheers


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hairysteve said:
I use Rhino Goo, available from Demon Tweeks. Stopped using Muc Off some time ago. If you do ever have corrosion problems don't admit to using Muc Off to your dealer if asked as it could affect any warranty claim.
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+1 for Rhino Goo :thumby: I stopped using Muc Off after my engine was replaced

The bike looks very nice and shiny after washing with Rhino Goo, although I always wash it properly with Zip Wax car shampoo or similar afterwards

It’s pretty cheap too

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Prod...Vp7vtCh0oMgxeEAQYASABEgL0uvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
 
I just jet wash mine, cos I’m extremely lazy and don’t enjoy cleaning bikes

However my Triumph doesn’t like the napalm they put in the water, so I’ve ordered some Vulcanet wipes to try

I know my Triumph dealer uses them and from YouTube videos they seem pretty impressive

We’ll see
 
Karlos said:
I’m quite surprised to read the comments about muck-off, I thought it was a good product. From the experience of people on here it’s seems to be quite the opposite. I can’t help but wonder why the finish on BMWs is such that it is easily damaged. I’ve used muck-off on my bikes never had a problem. I’m now wondering that as I’ve got a BMW have I bought an expensive pile of rust!


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Let’s not allow this thread to become a debate about build quality ffs !
This issue has nothing to do with build quality it’s about what the chemicals within a product does to painted surfaces. In my experience this product does alter the surface appearance.
Whatever brand of bike that I own I’d no longer use Muc-off again.


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If it's good enough for Triumph then it's good enough for BMW

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Note Triumph branding under the word 'Cleaner' :augie
 
A bit late now :( Personally I would not use muc off it is quite corrosive and will remove paint if left on too long. (From my experience) for me the bast way to clean a bike is good quality snow foam, leave it, then use a sponge to wash bike, that wash it off with gentle power washer, there is so much wax in it it leaves a good film on the bike, and it is so quick to do can do it often if you have the right set up. The other good thing about snow foam it gets into places you cannot get. To remove really greasy stuff, though not that you should get it on a GS brake and clutch cleaner. once dried, WD 40 everywhere, Remember to lean bike as far over as possible each side to release trapped water. although Everyone has their own ideas of best way to clean bikes
 
MaDPRoFF said:
A bit late now :( Personally I would not use muc off it is quite corrosive and will remove paint if left on too long. (From my experience) for me the bast way to clean a bike is good quality snow foam, leave it, then use a sponge to wash bike, that wash it off with gentle power washer, there is so much wax in it it leaves a good film on the bike, and it is so quick to do can do it often if you have the right set up. The other good thing about snow foam it gets into places you cannot get. To remove really greasy stuff, though not that you should get it on a GS brake and clutch cleaner. once dried, WD 40 everywhere, Remember to lean bike as far over as possible each side to release trapped water. although Everyone has their own ideas of best way to clean bikes
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just add use a hot air drier to finish off instead of lean the bike both ways and you have it nailed
 
Tripleblack13 said:
Let’s not allow this thread to become a debate about build quality ffs !
This issue has nothing to do with build quality it’s about what the chemicals within a product does to painted surfaces. In my experience this product does alter the surface appearance.
Whatever brand of bike that I own I’d no longer use Muc-off again.


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I beg your pardon, who made you the thread police.


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Jacal said:
I prefer to use 'Nano Tech' elbow grease :D
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MaDPRoFF said:
A bit late now :( Personally I would not use muc off it is quite corrosive and will remove paint if left on too long. (From my experience) for me the bast way to clean a bike is good quality snow foam, leave it, then use a sponge to wash bike, that wash it off with gentle power washer, there is so much wax in it it leaves a good film on the bike, and it is so quick to do can do it often if you have the right set up. The other good thing about snow foam it gets into places you cannot get. To remove really greasy stuff, though not that you should get it on a GS brake and clutch cleaner. once dried, WD 40 everywhere, Remember to lean bike as far over as possible each side to release trapped water. although Everyone has their own ideas of best way to clean bikes
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autogs said:
just add use a hot air drier to finish off instead of lean the bike both ways and you have it nailed
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Agree.

1.Snowfoam (use highly concentrated mix otherwise you're wasting you're time)
2. Judicious use of a diluted alkaline cleaner to get at tar or brake dust deposits - work quickly and don't leave to dwell
3. Rinse (preferably with resin filtered water)
4. Blow dry
5. Finish with a detailer to get at missed bits, if you're in the mood.

As a rule, avoid all advertised 'specialist cleaner' products where possible, and work quickly when you have to use them.
 
Although tbh looking at my GS now in the garage, washing it every week will not stop it rotting, it is appalling how bad it is after 7 months, and I have looked after it. and always kept in garage, only ever got wet a few times, but it just is damp all the time in a perfectly dry garage.
 
Karlos said:
I beg your pardon, who made you the thread police.


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Jeez dude - Harsh response !!
Tell you what, you may have good a point ! Maybe you have bought a pile of rust!!! BM’s are rubbish.
If I were you I’d sell it. Buy into another brand, join a forum and make similar positive and constructive contributions. :aidan
 
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