Security whilst touring

... always adding a pound of butter to the fridge.

PS Start a fresh thread to enquire about removing your panniers at night

What with it being so 'on trend' at the moment there is a high possibility of the OP being Vegan, in which case, may I recommend 'Pure' margarine as it contains no animal products :thumb2

Other than that; least hassle is a Roadlok disc lock thingy (but not cheap) or, much better than a chain, an (approx 10mm thick) platted steel rope with loops at each end and a lock for it. Harder to cut than a chain, much lighter than a chain and it coils up into a small space.

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Andres
 
I've been using one of these -

https://www.infinitymotorcycles.com...MI5ufLqvPo2QIVr7_tCh3HJA67EAQYASABEgJKQfD_BwE

On the GS I've found that if you line up the front wheel brake disc arm with the lower caliper arm, you can slide the U shackle through and fit the lock body so that only the bottpm of the disc lock faces out and the shackle U is hidden "inside the brake disc web".

sounds a faff but it works...
 
In France - Major security - Disc lock, Abus Ulock AND a shared chain to lock the bikes together, used all the time. Disc lock goes on if the bike is left for 5 mins in France. Germany = disc lock only. Black Forest; leave the keys in....
Seriously? I've never had a disc lock or any other kind of lock for the past 20+ years.
Bike parked on the drive for most of every summer.

I think you might need a perspective check.

In any case your bike is far more vulnerable at home than it is when you're on tour.
 
Thanks for the advice all, i'll take the disc lock and I have just ordered one of those kryptonite cable locks to use overnight. I never bothered with security in the past until I had my R1 stolen, The increased premiums over the following 4 years cost me almost as much as the payout so I am a little more cautious than I used to be but I don't want to be faffing around tbh.
In relation to the panniers, I'll be leaving those on overnight; removing and refitting is more hassle than I can be bothered with.
 
What with it being so 'on trend' at the moment there is a high possibility of the OP being Vegan, in which case, may I recommend 'Pure' margarine as it contains no animal products :thumb2

Other than that; least hassle is a Roadlok disc lock thingy (but not cheap) or, much better than a chain, an (approx 10mm thick) platted steel rope with loops at each end and a lock for it. Harder to cut than a chain, much lighter than a chain and it coils up into a small space.

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Andres

I like the look of that rope cable thingy- got a linky?

:beerjug: D
 
In France - Major security - Disc lock, Abus Ulock AND a shared chain to lock the bikes together, used all the time. Disc lock goes on if the bike is left for 5 mins in France. Germany = disc lock only. Black Forest; leave the keys in....

Blimey, I'm guessing you've been the victim of many a bike jacking?

I go disc lock and bike cover for overnight parking. Throw a pacsafe over my rollbag and a cable lock for locking my helmet to the bike should I wish to wander off for an hour here and there during the day.
Never had an issue with parking in hotel car parks, I only choose hotels with their own car parks.
 
Apart from putting the steering lock on, I've done nothing, although it does have Tracker Retrieve fitted.

I lock the panniers and leave my lid in one of them or take it with me.

Never had any problem...
 
What with it being so 'on trend' at the moment there is a high possibility of the OP being Vegan, in which case, may I recommend 'Pure' margarine as it contains no animal products :thumb2

Other than that; least hassle is a Roadlok disc lock thingy (but not cheap) or, much better than a chain, an (approx 10mm thick) platted steel rope with loops at each end and a lock for it. Harder to cut than a chain, much lighter than a chain and it coils up into a small space.

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Andres

I use the chain and padlock too if I have to park a distance from where I'm sleeping (if I'm not in a tent).
Unfortunately, the Roadlok doesn't fit a twincam!
 
Like many others, I use a cable lock to loop the bike's back wheel/frame up to something solid & a Thatcham Cat 1 disc lock up front (insurance requirement for some bikes eg: K1600). The cable lock loops around under my rear rack, secured with reusable zip ties, or in under-seat storeage, dependent on which bike I am using.

Whilst this wouldn't beat the determined pro thief, it has worked OK thus far. Sadly the big GS has become something of a target. A breakdown/puncture when touring is nuisance enough, but losing the whole rig??
 
Two things: the MOST IMPORTANT one is that you're highly unlikely to have any problem at all, especially if you're not staying in big cities; the second is that if a thief has tools and time to use them, they will have your bike. Mobile security is about making it more trouble than its worth, but your best defense is always not having a thief know the bike is there.

So the main thing is not parking with the bike on display: if booking ahead, I always email the hotel and ask for secure parking for the bike; most reply to say they have a courtyard or a garage or somewhere secure where I can park it at the back of the hotel. Certainly, if a hotel's details say it doesn't have private parking, I don't book it. If I'm just booking as I go along (4pm, look at the Booking app to find possible hotels about 2 hours ahead), I phone the hotel and ask about parking before committing to staying there.

Even so, I do take a lightweight chain (the current version is this) for the back wheel or for grouping upto three bikes together, and an alarmed disc lock for front wheel (I use this one). They've never been needed, I don't think, but I have them so it seems stupid not to use them.

When chaining the bike up, it's important not to leave the chain or lock lying on the floor, where it can be smashed with a big hammer. Ideally you'll chain it to a solid object (a fence post or lamppost) so it's suspended. If there's nothing to chain it to, try to loop the chain up around footrest hangers over the tail in such a way that it can't be freed and dropped to the floor without unlocking it.

And if you're taking a chain, do take a chain. Any set of bolt croppers will go through armoured cables in seconds. They may not take much longer to go through a thin chain (maybe a minute or two), but a big set of bolt croppers will make mincemeat of even thick cable. However, I wouldn't take a big, heavy chain - there are really good, uncroppable, practically indestructable chains from the likes of Pragmasis and Almax, but they're just far too big and heavy for touring. Great for the garage at home, no use on the road.

But frankly, unless you're leaving the bike unsupervised in the Paris housing projects, it's all likely to be overkill. How many people on this site have been touring for how many years without problems? You have to say it's the equivalent of several years of being on the road over there non-stop. You'll be fine. Just park sensibly.
 
For me, the first line of defence is covering it up, so I carry a lightweight cover. Then the bad guys: a. don't know whether it's anything they want and b. can't see what security measures they face. I think mostly these thieving magpies are opportunists attracted by shiny things which are easily stolen..
 
leaving the bike unattended on a petrol station forecourt for 30 seconds in the UK is more worrying than leaving it for an hour or more in the middle of most French towns.
 
Hi guys, sorry to disagree with all but prevention is better cure, think of the consequences of a theft, Bike gone maybe some gear etc, take that chain and the disk lock, better than the long walk home &#55357;&#56868;&#55357;&#56868;&#55357;&#56868;&#55357;&#56868;
 
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And if you're taking a chain, do take a chain. Any set of bolt croppers will go through armoured cables in seconds. They may not take much longer to go through a thin chain (maybe a minute or two), but a big set of bolt croppers will make mincemeat of even thick cable. ................

My experience does not bear that out.

The cable I use (which I linked to above) has jaw marks on it from two separate attempts on it from croppers. Braided steel cable collapses and moves under the jaws of cutters and is well know to be very hard to cut as a result. Obviously nothing is gonna resist decent tools and as ever it's about deterrence but on a convenience v absolute security give me a heavy duty cable over a chain any day.

Andres
 
All good advice from Simon , but this is a tip I always follow having seen how a set of bolt croppers rested in the ground can allow the user to put all his body weight into cropping the chain .....
When chaining the bike up, it's important not to leave the chain or lock lying on the floor, where it can be smashed with a big hammer. Ideally you'll chain it to a solid object (a fence post or lamppost) so it's suspended. If there's nothing to chain it to, try to loop the chain up around footrest hangers over the tail in such a way that it can't be freed and dropped to the floor without unlocking it.
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