Anyone test-ridden the new 1250 GS yet ?
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Well they must be good at it as the suspension is great , better than the old version IMHO
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Didn’t know they made suspension either but their auto boxes are the mutts
Personally I think the Sachs ESA is excellent too
Didn’t know they made suspension either but their auto boxes are the mutts
Personally I think the Sachs ESA is excellent too
I much prefer the ZF auto box in my 320d compared to the DSG box in my previous Golf.
I’m not a fan of the Sachs ESA as it was intermittently harsh on my 2014 GS LC from new before failing completely at 16k miles. The replacement needed recalibrating after a two-up tour of Ireland too after a few thousand miles.
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So..... you gonna buy it
Not sure yet. When I rode it this morning on motorways and greasy roads, I wasn’t that impressed. But after a couple of hours on the 1260, jumping back on the GS and firing it down some gnarly nadgery back roads, it excelled. I’d say that the GS has closed the gap slightly, but need to give it some thought as to whether I want another one or not.
Didn’t know they made suspension either but their auto boxes are the mutts
Personally I think the Sachs ESA is excellent too
The company is ZF Sachs... All the same.
Test rode the 1250 today...... Not that impressed at all I'm afraid.
If you're having a twin, you're having a twin, and not two cylinders trying to be four. I was glad to climb back on my 14 plate LC. If feels like a twin. The 1250 was quicker, but lifeless to me. The 8 - 9 grand is stopping in my pocket for now anyway. The gearbox with it's jumpy quickshifter was crappy and i preferred to change gear conventionally. It was fine however on the downshift. I could feel through my left foot that that was the old gearbox lurking under the gadgetry. i also prefer the suspension set up on the old bike, although this is perhaps due to the weight that the bike is loaded with, and with me being lightweight, I maybe didn't work it enough.
I also own the XR which is a four cylinder trying to be a four cylinder and doing it very well indeed. It will be very interesting to see how the 1250 progresses over the next few years. People love the boxer for its flat twin engine .... this newcomer was far too smooth for me. Having said all that, it's still a hell of a bike, and at 17k it bloody well ought to be! There are some hellish good bikes today for a lot less than that though.
If you're having a twin, you're having a twin, and not two cylinders trying to be four. I was glad to climb back on my 14 plate LC. If feels like a twin. The 1250 was quicker, but lifeless to me. The 8 - 9 grand is stopping in my pocket for now anyway. The gearbox with it's jumpy quickshifter was crappy and i preferred to change gear conventionally. It was fine however on the downshift. I could feel through my left foot that that was the old gearbox lurking under the gadgetry. i also prefer the suspension set up on the old bike, although this is perhaps due to the weight that the bike is loaded with, and with me being lightweight, I maybe didn't work it enough.
I also own the XR which is a four cylinder trying to be a four cylinder and doing it very well indeed. It will be very interesting to see how the 1250 progresses over the next few years. People love the boxer for its flat twin engine .... this newcomer was far too smooth for me. Having said all that, it's still a hell of a bike, and at 17k it bloody well ought to be! There are some hellish good bikes today for a lot less than that though.
Here you go I’ve found it Yes ZF is same it’s the two dudes names who set of making ball bearings 1st. See link
https://aftermarket.zf.com/go/en/sachs/about-us/the-brand/
https://aftermarket.zf.com/go/en/sachs/about-us/the-brand/
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Did a quick Google search and you’re correct. ZF acquires Sachs in 2001. There’s no mention of Sachs on their bike suspension webpage, just the ZF CDC system Big Derek mentioned above. It looks like the Sachs brand isn’t being used for bikes anymore as bikes aren’t mentioned on the Sachs website.
https://www.zf.com/products/en/motorcycle/home/cdc_faster_and_safer/cdc_faster_and_safer.html
Quickshifter is great.. If used correctly. Sounds like your using it as if makes the bike clutchless for all gear changes. It's meant for quickshifting whilst accelerating/decelerating quickly up/down the gearbox. Some people try and use all the time thinking it's there for a clutchless ride and wonder why it's jumpy
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What's different ?
Very happy with 1250 Exclusive-----except for one thing. Unable to set seat to a comfortable position. I've shifted seat to every possible position and still find that after an hour my back is hurting.
Previously had oil head and wet head GS and found them to be good. ----Not sure what to do.
Seem to be angled forward too much causing my back to arch. Need a solution.....if possible.
Comparing 2013 wc to this one---Well 2013 was a huge improvement on 2005 oil head, 1250 is similar improvement again. Well done BMW people!
Quickshifter is great.. If used correctly. Sounds like your using it as if makes the bike clutchless for all gear changes. It's meant for quickshifting whilst accelerating/decelerating quickly up/down the gearbox. Some people try and use all the time thinking it's there for a clutchless ride and wonder why it's jumpy
Very happy with 1250 Exclusive-----except for one thing. Unable to set seat to a comfortable position. I've shifted seat to every possible position and still find that after an hour my back is hurting.
Previously had oil head and wet head GS and found them to be good. ----Not sure what to do.
Seem to be angled forward too much causing my back to arch. Need a solution.....if possible.
Comparing 2013 wc to this one---Well 2013 was a huge improvement on 2005 oil head, 1250 is similar improvement again. Well done BMW people!
REGS12
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Seating has changed.
Very happy with 1250 Exclusive-----except for one thing. Unable to set seat to a comfortable position. I've shifted seat to every possible position and still find that after an hour my back is hurting.
Previously had oil head and wet head GS and found them to be good. ----Not sure what to do.
Seem to be angled forward too much causing my back to arch. Need a solution.....if possible.
Comparing 2013 wc to this one---Well 2013 was a huge improvement on 2005 oil head, 1250 is similar improvement again. Well done BMW people!
Quickshifter is great.. If used correctly. Sounds like your using it as if makes the bike clutchless for all gear changes. It's meant for quickshifting whilst accelerating/decelerating quickly up/down the gearbox. Some people try and use all the time thinking it's there for a clutchless ride and wonder why it's jumpy
Very happy with 1250 Exclusive-----except for one thing. Unable to set seat to a comfortable position. I've shifted seat to every possible position and still find that after an hour my back is hurting.
Previously had oil head and wet head GS and found them to be good. ----Not sure what to do.
Seem to be angled forward too much causing my back to arch. Need a solution.....if possible.
Comparing 2013 wc to this one---Well 2013 was a huge improvement on 2005 oil head, 1250 is similar improvement again. Well done BMW people!
Bar risers, up & back a bit, are what you need
Out of interest which seat option did you choose.
They did a comfort option when ordering , I ordered the comfort package but found the option seemed more like a low seat which was not comfortable , they changed then for the comfort high seats which are more padded and slightly higher , not tried it yet , but im sure it will be fine as I like a high seat. Standard height in low setting , higher in high setting
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It's called comfort package, which gives you things like heated grips, but the seat is standard height two piece.
Bar risers sound a cheaper option...not sure how they'll fix it though.
Bar risers sound a cheaper option...not sure how they'll fix it though.
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