Ah, yes. I remebered the point of waht I was gooing to say. The muffs are top . I'm on my third winter of them. I'll have them a few winters yet as well.
Archaeo - I dont know if this still aplies - I cant remember what you are riding these days, but for F650 GS riders, the mufffs fit nicely over a pair of Acerbisc habndguards with spoilers. No bar end weight.