Upgrading the horn on a 2008 GS

Thunder

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As someone who is becoming more and more paranoid about making my presence known to other road users one of the areas I wanted to look at was fitting something a bit more audible than the standard puny unit supplied with the bike.

On my previous 2006 model I'd fitted a pair of Stebel Magnums but on the 2008 model with the ESA this was not an option owing to the reduced space available so I started looking at other possible areas to fit an after-market horn and having stripped the bike found a prefect position for one of Nippy Normans Stebel Nautilus horns in the new area used to mount the charcoal canister required for areas in the USA.

It can be found under the right side of the new fuel tank is easy to access by removing the side panel and right beside the stock horn so simple to make a connection using Nippy Normans can bus plug.

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The Stebel Nautilius is quite a large unit but it's relatively flat design makes it perfect to fit into the space available leaving room to refit the side panel and not making contact with any of the engine casings.

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I drilled a hole in the rear bracket that is moulded into the tank. It seems to be best to keep it to the right side to keep the horn clear of the engine casings.

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The horn is fitted using a bolt through it’s mounting bracket with a spacer to distribute the “load” over the rear of the plastic tank bracket (I improvised one using a wide shoulder nut which was the right width) and a 25mm washer.

I used 2 heavy-duty cable ties threaded though a mounting point on the bottom of the tank and a gap on the horn itself to prevent the ties slipping off.

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I added some impact foam between the horn and the tank to prevent any direct contact and handle any flexing of the horn, and the relay required was mounted through a hole drilled on the forward bracket on the tank (no pictures I’m afraid as the battery went on the camera but you will get the idea from this before shot).

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The can bus system cannot handle the additional draw of the Nautilus so a relay is essential, I found it needed a 15amp fuse ,wired accordingly a feed direct to the battery and ran the trigger feed direct from the original horn plug.

When the side panels back in place the horn is well protected and cannot be seen, it can be heard though and is very, very , very loud!:eek:

Not saying this is a perfect solution but it works for me and I’m posting it here as a guide to what can be done with no legal liability what so ever, so don’t come back to me if it does not work for you.:aidan
 
Well Done

Well done another well written and photo'd thread.

Am I glad you have the same bike - you have saved me months, if not years of research.
 
Relay in horn circuit

You said you put a relay in, did you leave the original horn in place, or have you taken it out to make room for the Stebel and only got the relay on the horn circuit.

I planning exactly the same mod as you so your write up and photos was excellent
thanks
 
You said you put a relay in, did you leave the original horn in place, or have you taken it out to make room for the Stebel and only got the relay on the horn circuit.

I planning exactly the same mod as you so your write up and photos was excellent
thanks

The original horn is left in place as there is enough room for the Nautilus with it fitted.

I disconnected the OE horn and used one of Nippy's can bus plugs to feed the switched part of the relay and provide an earth. Just means it's a simple job to reconnect the OE if required. :aidan
 
Was thinking about doing the same, when mine arrives. Any sign of you getting in the saddle yet Thunder?

I'm not sure if the GSA has the same mouldings underneath the tank as the 08GS, if someone could pop the panel off and have a look it would be useful.

Planning to get out on the bike this weekend, it's St Patrick's Day next Monday so we have a long weekend :aidan
 
I bought a straight replacement from Nippy Norman's, loud enough. In fact cars think it's a truck. No relays, simple replacement from the OE.

Why is it that we spend over £10k on a 'Big' bike (1200 GSA) and end up with a horn worthy of a 125cc...?
 
you might have kept your cable ties straight, oh and that blue mesh will hold water encouraging corrosion.:augie
 
Superb effort there Thunder well done, would like to have a go at that. However, being a lecky numpty any chance of some sort of wiring diagram??
 
you might have kept your cable ties straight, oh and that blue mesh will hold water encouraging corrosion.:augie

Fair comment but let me clarify:

  1. The cable ties run through a loop moulded into the tank and through slot in the horn, they don't line up :augie
  2. Corrosion wise the tanks plastic and the horn body is plastic coated, I think it will be fine:aidan
 
Superb effort there Thunder well done, would like to have a go at that. However, being a lecky numpty any chance of some sort of wiring diagram??

The can bus plug Nippy sells is simple to fit, it's just a case of unplugging the old horn and making the connection.

The relay supplied with the horn has a set of instuctions with each connection marked, you just need to run a positive feed from the battery (make sure you add a fuse as close to the battery as you can get it) to the relay and thats it.

Will have a look later and see if there is an article on wiring a relay. :aidan
 
The OE horn on my new 08 GSA is significantly loader than my old OE 05 GS!

Whether there is a difference between standard GS and GSA I don't know, but I upgraded to the Nautilus on my old bike, but the new OE horn on the GSA is loader still.

I'm guessing the wiring for GS and GSA is the same so it could be you'd save time and soldering by just doing the swap from GS to GSA horn?:augie
 
Great Write up. Facing the same issue with my GSA, swapping to an 08 Model . Is this set up around as loud as the Twin horn Magnum set up which I think you used to have on the previous bike?
 
Great Write up. Facing the same issue with my GSA, swapping to an 08 Model . Is this set up around as loud as the Twin horn Magnum set up which I think you used to have on the previous bike?

It's got to be as loud if not a fraction louder, but a different sound, this one sounds like an airhorn and has woken a few sleeping cage drivers up a few times now :D
 
nautilus horn installation - diferrent approach

I totally agree the horn on a 1200GS is hopeless. The ones on my BMW E92 are no better either. So after having read several posts i orderded a Stebel Nautilus compact for the GS, and the "truck" one for the E92. Received them yesterday. Looked today for an hour on how to install it on my 2006 GS and i couldn't find an acceptable way of doing it. I don't want brake lines touching it.
Thus i took the horn into the living room, took one of my favourite belgium beers and studied this horn. 10 minutes later i had a plastic horn, and a seperate compressor. The horn is fixed to the compressor unit by the large plastic clamp, and fixed in postion by two notches, one is the visible one on the outside (compressor outlet), the other one is a small one on the inside where the plastic inlet channel meets the compressor housing. Just pop a screwdriver into that area, another one under the visible notch, and it comes off.
Now you have two bits. Here's my plan:The plastic horn itself is extremely light weight, and you can simply use the clamp that went over the compressor to go onto the lower part of the GS's lower fork (i did try that, 2 second job, but might need to sand off the inlet notch), or anywhere else. Some double side tape and it won't move. The compressor itself will now fit well onto the stud for the orginal horn, although i'm not convinced this is the best technical solution. To me too much weight/length on a small stud, and interferes with the ideal orientation of the Nautilus on the fork. But there must be now be zillions of mounting possibilities , although one would like to keep the hose connection short for quick horn response. I'm looking at under the saddle, nicely protected from the elements, with the relay there too (i have the optional high saddle in the high position, but for under saddle space that is the same as the std one in the high postion)

Hooking up the two parts shound not be too difficult, the male outlet on the compressor adapts easily to a plastic hose, the female inlet to the plastic bit I plan to do with a metal/copper tube, using tape to size up as neccessary to get a decent fit into the housing. Other advantage: The Nautilus truck horn construction iseems to be no different. Once installed i can quickly try the larger "truck" one on my GS too

PS: I believe the Nautilus installation requirements are aimed at keeping the horn to compressor connection as the highest point. By seperating the two parts I see no reason why you can't place them as you want (within some common sense), as long as the compressor is mounted higher than the horn so rain / condensation does not get into the compressor, and/or horn actuation can blow any condensation out.

Now i just need some time to get this done. I also plan on soldering relay wires to pins, and stick these into the orginal horn connector, and use a crimp sleave to seal it off.
 
It can be found under the right side of the new fuel tank is easy to access by removing the side panel and right beside the stock horn so simple to make a connection using Nippy Normans can bus plug.

Just thought I'd mention Southport Superbikes sold me a Canbus connector for £8.50 + VAT. Admittedly I had to provide my own spade connectors but it makes Nippy's £14.00 "kit" look a bit steep.
 


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