alexcorral
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Anyone care to compare the two bikes?
Anyone know if the G450X has a kick starter aside form the e-start?
Anyone know if the G450X has a kick starter aside form the e-start?
No kickstart I think
alexcorral
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No kickstarter??? 
Seememd like a good option to replace my KTM... without a kickstarter... don't know about that
Seememd like a good option to replace my KTM... without a kickstarter... don't know about that
ovenpaa
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Comparing the G450X to anything right now is difficult as final specifications are sure to change and I always view manufacturers data with a degree of suspicion. My take on it is the G450X on paper looks fairly looks much of a muchness, maybe slightly lighter, maybe down on power than the current Euro and Japanese contenders and running Marzocchi forks up front (See HP2) The chain tension setup is nice however the clutch may bite some people in moments of stress as it has been suggested it is quite on or off. Also it is worth looking at the factory bikes to see where they have made changes, the obvious ones are Ohlins up front and new rims.
If the electric starter really does work after spills I will be pleased, and it is vastly preferable to trying to turn a left kicker after 4 hours of serious competition. Concerns for me are the service schedule and warranty, I am used to servicing my own competition machines and if moving the map to high power means a 10 hour service schedule that has to be done by BWM to keep the warranty in place
Even worse if they say warranty is void if the machine is used off road
I guess we will have to wait a few more weeks to see what happens, I have not seen anything new on the bike for a while now other than a price that was wrong and removed by Motorrad.
Just my 2p worth.
If the electric starter really does work after spills I will be pleased, and it is vastly preferable to trying to turn a left kicker after 4 hours of serious competition. Concerns for me are the service schedule and warranty, I am used to servicing my own competition machines and if moving the map to high power means a 10 hour service schedule that has to be done by BWM to keep the warranty in place
Even worse if they say warranty is void if the machine is used off road I guess we will have to wait a few more weeks to see what happens, I have not seen anything new on the bike for a while now other than a price that was wrong and removed by Motorrad.
Just my 2p worth.
What's a KTM450 XCR-W ?
Is that some whacky S American version of the EXC ?
Is that some whacky S American version of the EXC ?
Comparing the G450X to anything right now is difficult as final specifications are sure to change and I always view manufacturers data with a degree of suspicion. My take on it is the G450X on paper looks fairly looks much of a muchness, maybe slightly lighter, maybe down on power than the current Euro and Japanese contenders and running Marzocchi forks up front (See HP2) The chain tension setup is nice however the clutch may bite some people in moments of stress as it has been suggested it is quite on or off. Also it is worth looking at the factory bikes to see where they have made changes, the obvious ones are Ohlins up front and new rims.
If the electric starter really does work after spills I will be pleased, and it is vastly preferable to trying to turn a left kicker after 4 hours of serious competition. Concerns for me are the service schedule and warranty, I am used to servicing my own competition machines and if moving the map to high power means a 10 hour service schedule that has to be done by BWM to keep the warranty in place
I guess we will have to wait a few more weeks to see what happens, I have not seen anything new on the bike for a while now other than a price that was wrong and removed by Motorrad.
Just my 2p worth.
Pretty sure that the KTM model is that there is no warranty on their enduro bikes after 30 days... for a racing bike I can't imagine any other model that would work and see no reason why BMW shouldn't follow a similar model.
ovenpaa
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alexcorral
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Loads of torque and plenty of performance all packed up in the world’s best Enduro chassis. Always up front on any course and in all the tests.
Engine type Single cylinder, 4-stroke, SOHC, 4 valves
Displacement 449.39 cc
Bore x stroke 95/63.4 mm (3.74/2.5")
Compression ratio 11.9:1
Starter/Battery Kickstarter and E-Starter / 4 Ah
Transmission 6 gears wide-ratio
Carburetor Keihin MX FCR 39
Control 4 V / OHC with cam levers
Lubrication Pressure lubrication with 2 Eaton pumps
Engine lubrication 10W50
Primary drive 33:76
Final drive 14:50
Cooling Liquid cooled
Clutch Wet multi-disc clutch, operated hydraulically
Ignition Kokusan digital 4K-3B
Frame Central double-cradle-type 25CrMo4
Subframe Aluminium, removable
Handlebar Neken Aluminium Ø 28/22 mm (1.10/0.87")
Front suspension WP USD Ø 48 mm (1.89")
Rear suspension WP monoshock PDS
Suspension travel front/rear 300/335 mm (11.81/13.19")
Front brake 260 mm (10.24") disc, Brembo double piston
Rear brake 220 mm (8.6") disc, Brembo single piston
Rims, front/rear 1.60 x 21"; 2.15 x 18"
Tires, front/rear 80/100-21"; 110/100-18"
Chain X-ring chain 5/8 x 1/4"
Main silencer Aluminium with USFS spark arrestor
Steering head angle 63.5°
Trail Adjustable
Wheel base 1475±10 mm (58.07±0.39")
Ground clearance (unloaded) 380 mm (15")
Seat height 985 mm (38.78")
Tank capacity approx. 9.2 liters (2.43 gal)
Weight (no fuel) approx. 112.2 kg (247.36 lbs)
Deadskin
Registered user
Hmmm
450 exc v's G450x
i wonder which one will be left on the showroom floor in six months
alexcorral
Guest
How about price?
Ho wmuch more will the G450X cost?
Ho wmuch more will the G450X cost?
ovenpaa
Registered user
The G450X is aroung GBP5700 however UK prices are often up a bit on the Americas. 
alexcorral
Guest
And what's the price for a KTM450EXC in UK?
Deadskin
Registered user
alexcorral
Guest
So the G450X is actually cheaper than the EXC450??????
The G450X is aroung GBP5700 however UK prices are often up a bit on the Americas.
Where have you got this price from.
The cost i have been told is £6020.
karl
ovenpaa
Registered user
Any BMW dealer I would have thought. I was told the first orders are GBP5695 after that they go up by GBP500.
I have spoken with BMW dealer and I was quoted £6020 and two other dealers could not even quote a price.
All this is interesting.
karl
ovenpaa
Registered user
Wollastons BMW in Northampton is where mine was ordered.
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