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10-06-09, 06:45
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Originally Posted by WindyChuffer
Timpo's correct. Plus the G450X comes with comprehensive workshop manual on a CD. From the research I've been doing on my DRZ-400 replacement, KTM dealers have a shite reputation and also a shite reputation for honouring warranty claims.
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calm down calm down it's only a motorcycle
dont be so defensive,i am guessing you have never owned a KTM dirt bike,in 13 years of KTM ownership i've had one warranty issue and that was on the first one a 610 MXer and that was brought second hand in 96 and fixed free as a goodwill gesture,5x520/525 and 2 300's(the best race/trail bike on the market and my next buy when i sell the 525) raced and trailrode no issue's,go to any race and the majority is orange and ask yourself why
young mister timpo of this parrish does a "bit" of trail riding,every time we go out it's about 9/10hrs riding and he owns a 450x but he rides a DRZ
buy the BMW and put a couple hundred hours on it then come back and tell us about it costs to maintain warranty ect( a question NO OWNER is willing to answer)
i still think its a good bike
now where's that next 300
loz
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10-06-09, 07:47
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Loz - Soz if u think am not calm. I am, I promise !!! One of the problems with forum mass-debates. Mass de-bating in front of each other is always so much more fun... 
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10-06-09, 15:15
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Oh fek.
I just took the plunge and just bought a G450X !

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10-06-09, 16:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WindyChuffer
Oh fek.
I just took the plunge and just bought a G450X !

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Are you bringing it tomorrow?
Greg
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10-06-09, 16:16
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You must be kidding right? Taking a new bike off road? Pah !
Just kidding.
Unfortunately I don't get it 'till next week. Can't wait to get it filthy. Got a fekkin bargin - will tell you more tomorrow night.
Mike.
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10-06-09, 17:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WindyChuffer
Oh fek.
I just took the plunge and just bought a G450X !

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welcome to the club !
minimum things to do
fit proper hand guards, bash plate, power plug, exhaust and bar risers if you are over 6ft.
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10-06-09, 19:53
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Have you fitted bar risers to yours? if so are they sturdy as i find my bars move about on their mountings quite a bit after a relatively 'small' off.
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11-06-09, 07:23
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Trust me
I have had some relatively BIG offs recently. No problem with the bar risers or the mountings, did bend the bars through 
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11-06-09, 07:26
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Originally Posted by Dave Emsley
I have had some relatively BIG offs recently. No problem with the bar risers or the mountings, did bend the bars through 
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Did you bend your body too?
Greg
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11-06-09, 20:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WindyChuffer
Got a fekkin bargin - will tell you more tomorrow night.
Mike.
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Tell more - I've been watching the s/hand prices of these meself and thinkin they are looking more tempting now.
Paul
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11-06-09, 20:08
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Do they need servicing EVERY 70 hours  or is it just after the first 70 to reshim or something once it's worn in? 
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11-06-09, 20:47
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Originally Posted by Fanum
Do they need servicing EVERY 70 hours  or is it just after the first 70 to reshim or something once it's worn in? 
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70 hrs Service Schedule - New Crank/Rod and Piston/Rings and new Exhaust valves, plus rear shock service and fork rebuild
Dealer Labour c.Ł1200 - 2 day job and Parts c.Ł500-Ł600 
Totally scary
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11-06-09, 20:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyBoxer
70 hrs Service Schedule - New Crank/Rod and Piston/Rings and new Exhaust valves, plus rear shock service and fork rebuild
Dealer Labour c.Ł1200 - 2 day job and Parts c.Ł500-Ł600 
Totally scary
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 That's the 450 off the list then 
Cheers Johnny 
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11-06-09, 21:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fanum
 That's the 450 off the list then 
Cheers Johnny 
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Or........................
Just wait until it blows.... a new motor from Kymco maybe a cheaper option
Routine servicing is an oil/filter and air filter clean every 10 hrs
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11-06-09, 21:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyBoxer
Or........................
Just wait until it blows.... a new motor from Kymco maybe a cheaper option
Routine servicing is an oil/filter and air filter clean every 10 hrs
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No....this was as a possible lead bike for leading Maroc pogo trips........11 days riding, over 70 hours on the road per trip....makes it totally un-viable.
My Ex-Timolgra well sorted DR650 is bloody good machine and TBH suits my abilities as well, so I guess BWM have designed themselves out of another customer there 
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11-06-09, 22:19
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Fanum - think again. The bike is positioned as a competition bike, and comes with competition maintenance schedules. Oil & filter change every 10 hours + valve clearance check every 20hrs. The 70 hr service is a biggy, yes. But will only need doing if you are racing it, full throttle the whole time etc.
Big difference between racing it and greenlaning / off roading. Just skip the 70hr service and wait for something to go wrong. I have no intention of doing the 70hr service, and neither do all the other joe-public folk I've spoken with who have this bike. Chances are nothing will go wrong. But dont skimp on the oil / filter change.
Same with all these bikes.
But if you want / need to play it safe, get a DRZ400E !
I pick mine up on Sat from a BMW dealer with 10hrs use. Bring it on!
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