How Should You Ride Through Water

Foot deep...... slowly
Three feet deep....... on a ferry :thumb

If it's deeper than this, don't do it unless you've fitted a snorkel.

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Stormchaser said:
That's a cracking photo Wiz!

I have to thank Dan (thetoad) for that one. I was a bit busy trying to avoid filling the air intake (about a half inch above the water) to pop off the bike and setup the timer :rolleyes:
 
Hi Tyronem!

I'm glad you asked, and I'm hoping for some good answears from the experts here.
Me? I'm a sissy - can't help! :o But I love to watch! :thumb

:) Liv.
 

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Wizard said:
Foot deep...... slowly
Three feet deep....... on a ferry :thumb

If it's deeper than this, don't do it unless you've fitted a snorkel.

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Quality foto :thumb

I wasn't the Lagan I take it :eek
 
Stick it in second gear and keep the revs up
and the bike bike will make it to the other side :thumb
 

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Its on the right hand side as you sit on the bike they are fairly easy to get to
better than the adventure there a complete ball ache in fack i gave up on trying to fit one. :(
 
Wizard said:
Foot deep...... slowly
Three feet deep....... on a ferry :thumb

If it's deeper than this, don't do it unless you've fitted a snorkel.

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hummmm, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and all that, but I'd have to say from experience that that is too deep...

That looks like a similar speed to the crossing I made of Shilton Ford and I'm still waiting to get mind back.

I know there are a few here that are going to disagree, but IMO there are a couple of problems with the design of this bike.

If you have a look at Wizzards picture, the BMW horizontal (WTF???) snorkel is on the right side of the bike, tucked in behind the plastic tank. The air intake is very near the bottom front suspension yoke. In a 4x4 I was always taught to create a bow wave and push it through, dropping the power only as you start to exit the water, therefor not pushing water up the dry road.

If you look at the pic, you'll see that this bow wave has worked to create a lower level of water around the back of the tank, in theory giving you a better ability to wade. The trouble is if you look at the front of the bike, you've got water over the front mud guard and also over the lower yoke, the way the whole thing is designed it is likely that this will lift water and funnel it to the air intake.

The other dumb thing about the design is that if you open the airbox up and look inside, you'll see that there is a hole on the bottom left side of the airbox, this is the engine breather, any water that you do get into your airbox, but not into the cylinders has no where to go but down, through the breather pipe and into the sump - emulsifying the water which can not be a good thing in the long run.

In hindsight it is possible that the design of the ford might have come into play for me as I managed to get over three quarters of the way across before the engine cut out and I was actually climbing the slope out of the ford at this point… the BMW snorkel is angled slightly downwards, so I’m guessing as I was climbing out the snorkel leveled and made it easier for water to enter, but I have no way of knowing for sure.

On the subject of fitting snorkels, I've had a bit of a hunt about for one but can't find anything specific, TT used to do one apparently but they dont now. I spoke to a guy on the TT stand at the bike show and he suggested a very simple mod that works well for him - he's cut a plastic coke bottle in half and put the bottom half over the end of the BMW snorkel, this acts to stop water being driven into the airbox.

Another mod that has been suggested to me is to increase the height of the breather pipe by inserting an additional pipe inside the airbox.

As I say I know there are a few of you that will disagree with me, but get this wrong and it becomes a very expensive exercise and all BMW's claims that this is a bike built to handle anything Mother Nature can throw at is disappear out of the window. :(

Sorry to sound such a causionary note, but I've learnt a lot of this at my own cost, which is a real shame because like my Land Cruiser I fully believed the GSA was going to be a do anything go anywhere kind of vehicle....
 
Always ride with extreme caution and respect for your pillion ;)
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Making a contolled entry and exit without soaking the cameraman :thumb
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This was towards the end of a great day on the East Midlands do this year.

This 'wizzard' ford is at Little Lawford near Rugby. We did have one GS flood, but it wasn't Wizzard's. On this occassion, it was easily sorted.

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Greg
 
Septic said:
Stick it in second gear and keep the revs up
and the bike bike will make it to the other side :thumb

On a 1200 that would be about 40 MPH :D
I wouldn't even try to ride through 3ft of water on the Honda, let alone the GS, at that depth either find a way round, or push it through.
Even "Go anywhere" vehicles have their limitations. I've never drowned a bike yet, but I have done a few 4x4's.
Mark
 
earthmover said:
I wouldn't even try to ride through 3ft of water on the Honda, let alone the GS

At three foot you are right. Another problem, as I see it, though is that there is no advise given anywhere in the manual or any of the accompanying documentation to suggest what the maximum wade depth for these bikes actually is. I know the bike has a huge suspension travel, but there must be someway to word it... "when wading BMW advise that you go through water no deeper than half the height of the front wheel" for example... that still leaves plenty of margin to error.

I did ask BMW UK for a statement on what you can reasonable expect the bike to be able to acheive... the initial answer I got was that the bikes are not built to go through water... FULL STOP :eek:

This the later revised to a very wishy washy... it all depends.

I guess I am expecting too much if I really thought I'd get any kind of half way sensible advise...
 
That BMW for yer.

Well how very BMW, Their version of a disclaimer no doubt. wonder how they word their manual for the X5. can't imagine KTM taking this approach. huh well they sell 4x4s and off road motorcycles that don't get covered for off road use.
just cos you don't think many people will go off roading doesn't mean none of your products will ever see mud. come on BMW pull yer finger out.
Meanwhile i'm investigating an adaption for both GS and GSA which will bring the air intake upto top yoke level then we can do some proper wading. I'll keep yer posted i'll also be looking at the breather tube being extended so's not to take water into the engine should it get in the airbox.
 


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