2820 obsolete???

[skellum]

A rather arrogant assistant on the Garmin stand at the NEC insisted that the 2820 was now obsolete and that the 550 had replaced it. I explained that I thought the 2820 was actually better and the 2820 still seemed to be on the Garmin web site as available - he then said that was only on the USA site, not the UK! He went on to say that you could probably still buy old stock but no more were being supplied from Garmin UK.
I hope that isnt the case as I was rather hoping for a 2920 etc etc..

 

[John Armstrong]

Did you ask them about a 2920

 

[Schtum]

Apart from being somewhat arrogant, I suspect in essence, he's quite correct. The whole trend in automotive GPS units has been to move away from models for the expert user towards consumer models which offer relative ease of use and in the case of the Nuvi models, for example, don't even require access to a PC.

 

[jimbo]

Apart from being somewhat arrogant, I suspect in essence, he's quite correct. The whole trend in automotive GPS units has been to move away from models for the expert user towards consumer models which offer relative ease of use and in the case of the Nuvi models, for example, don't even require access to a PC.

Whilst I personally dislike the trends away from the expert users, I suspect Garmin are doing the right thing The GPS market is huge and if Garmin don't keep a big slice of the main stream they will never be able to invest sufficiently to keep up with the likes of TomTom.

So celebrity voices and snap-on coloured skins are the way forwards

 

[Schtum]

Whilst I personally dislike the trends away from the expert users, I suspect Garmin are doing the right thing The GPS market is huge and if Garmin don't keep a big slice of the main stream they will never be able to invest sufficiently to keep up with the likes of TomTom.

So celebrity voices and snap-on coloured skins are the way forwards

The GPS snob bit of me agrees with you. However, SWMBO and I have a nüvi 770 and a 760, respectively, in our cars and they've been great - especially using the 770 in the USA.

When I think that I paid nearly £700 for my SPIII and that they were over £1500 when they were first released, in comparison with the £265 I paid for the nüvi 770 - well, there is no comparison really.

I'm also planning on putting the 760 into a waterproof box to use it on the bike since its performance is so superior to my SPIII.

 

[Ash]

my brand new 2820 arrived last week
a seller on amazon had 6 new units with v9 mapping.
the other 5 were snapped up by tossers after i put details in this section
and for a bargain price of £250 .
there are some on ebay for £250 but they are white box i believe.[still a great buy]
and there were some news ones for £744 also on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Garmin-Street...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:1|39:1|240:1318

 

[Gecko]

Never mind the 2820 becoming obsolete - I think the question is if Garmin is becoming obsolete.... ?

Medion have just launched the latest GoPal P5430.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=107790&blogid=18

QUOTE "
The new GoPal P5430 Medion is emphasizing the extra large screen that measures 5″ diagonally. The rest of the features are also medium to high end. There’s even a finger print sensor. It uses the SiRF InstantFix II GPS receiver which reduces the time to first fix by guessing where those satellites might be.

MEDION GoPal P5430 comes with maps Western and Eastern Europe; provided by Navteq, and an integrated TMC traffic antenna to help you stay out the mess. Other features include:

Avoid traffic jams with traffic Master
Voice control
High performance SiRF Titan 600 Mhz processor
Text-to-Speech for precise traffic guidance
Pre-loaded safety camera locations
Lane and Speed advisor
3 GB memory
Bluetooth

It goes for about 175£ or 200 €…

" UNQUOTE


£ 175 - all Europe, 3GB memory - bluetooth - touch screen - voice control .....

 

[BegesRus]

If the medion unit weatherproof for a moto?

 

[RAM-man]

This market has changed alot in recent years.

Bikers went from GPS V, then onto StreetPilot which as a branding was used then for StreetPilot III, 26xx, 27xx, etc, etc

As a bikers GPS mounted device what do you want ?. Is it still something like a 2610 with 2Gb card but with bluetooth and faster processor .. or is it a zumo with lots of features and functions that many users do not use or understand in using as many returned are still on factory default settings.

So heres a chance to share your pearls of wisdom and define what for you is a a bikers gps unit?, by size (comparison) , functions and features and mapping detail.

You never know if someone is listening and reading these thoughts and ideas.

 

[Greg Masters]

The 2820 was off the UK list about 6 months ago.

But I had an otherwise similar conversation comparing the my faithful 2610 -v- the Zumo 550.

Whilst the 2610 has feature that the Zumo doesn't, the Zumo does have a faster processor and a high sensitivity aerial circuit - something than none for the 2xxx units had.

Greg

 

[(RIP) Bobble]

I really like my 2720, however it would be better if it worked quicker, had a larger screen and had a faster port for transferring data, otherwise I can't fault it

 

[araspitfire]

For motorcycle use... for me:

Roughly in order of importance:

-Shows a map, does street directions. (like pretty much everything)
-Big enough screen to see easily, but tough enough to survive an off.
-Waterproof, obviously.
-Can keep a track log that is as long as any trip I might take... within reason (over 8000 kms/ 3 weeks)
-Allows easy route creation mixing off-road and autoroute segments.
-Hooks into my intercom.
-Battery on-board for 3 or 4 hours of off-bike use, small enough to fit in a bum-bag (for town visits)
-Does POI activity (speed cameras)
-Traffic notification (can be an add-on)
-can load and display track logs, or accepts similar information in an easy format like GPX.
-Can accept track logs and way point info from others via USB or wireless, without the need for a computer.
-comes with a mounting system that would require tools to get it off the bike, so I can leave it mounted for store and restaurant visits.
-can use a module that would allow real-time tracking of friends. (think Rhino, but as an antenna add-on)

I currently use a 2820 and a Colorado... the two of them give me endless tracklog and decent live navigation... neither allow me to load and display tracks...

Al...

 

[alimey4u2]

I like to think of it as a "classic"....

 

[Deleted account 211028001]

i still like and stick with my 2610

i had a quest for the car would buy another if it were the right price

 

[Arsey]

i still like and stick with my 2610

i had a quest for the car would buy another if it were the right price

Is £99 cheap enough ?

 

[Jon]

Is £99 cheap enough ?

Now that's not bad..........

I really liked the customisable display on the Quest - if it hadn't been for the flip aerial, which stopped you being able to carry it off the bike like, say, an Etrex, I'd probably still have it as a spare............

So heres a chance to share your pearls of wisdom and define what for you is a a bikers gps unit?, by size (comparison) , functions and features and mapping detail.

You never know if someone is listening and reading these thoughts and ideas.

1) When you're not following a route, the old Quest/26xx series would say "driving north on xx road". The Zumo briefly flashes up what road you're on when you turn, then nothing. If you're not looking at the screen for that literal split second, you won't see it. Handy to have & one reason why my mate & his team (who might or might not follow people for a living) have access to 3 x 2610's for car & bike use & don't/won't use Zumo's

2) Turn screen flash up like the Quest/26xx series instead of gradually zooming in to the turn. if you haven't got Aunty Garmin in your ear, you tend to pick up the screen flash-up with your peripheral vision, instead of missing the turn .

This has all been said to Garmin people on various stands ad infinitum

 

[cookie]

So heres a chance to share your pearls of wisdom and define what for you is a a bikers gps unit?, by size (comparison) , functions and features and mapping detail.

i want:

something with a touch screen at least as big as a 27/2820, high res, but with a thinner body, more like a nuvi. maybe a zumo screen in a better shaped body.

doesn't need physical buttons, maybe just a home button like my iphone.

battery powered off bike.

massively customisable interface like my gpsmap60csx.

it needs to accept a route i've planned on a computer as is, no bloody recalculations on the unit unless if i stray off route!

current mapping is ok, but i'd like to run it natively, on my mac, without dicking around with loading onto a pc first.

bluetooth to send a route from my gps to another, so a group can all have identical routes.

i don't want:

to have to take out a tiny SD card and have to insert it in other units to swap data. WTF do that when the unit already has bluetooth?

a dumbed down unit like the zumo.

an overcomplicated cradle that fails.

an mp3 player. i've already got several proper ones.

a system to answer my phone. i have an answerphone that takes care of all that.

a little picture of a bike on the screen. that's just so crap.

a horrid interface and icons that look like a 10 year old drew it.

of course, what i really want:

is for

to make one

 

[Bumpkin]

Is £99 cheap enough ?

Though:

MapSource City Select Europe CD with full coverage and full unlock

Either that's incorrect or the mapping will be ages out of date and you'll need to splash out on an update before using in anger. There will definitely be some road changes that will effect many possible routes.

 

[ebbo]

The one feature we (mates that is) were hoping for was built in bike to bike radio as the Garmin Rino enjoys.

But we also want…
BIG touch screen
50 routes
10000 waypoints
Unlimited track log
Bright white ‘call attention’ LED when routing
Technical or Simple user selectable interface
Fully user definable buttons and pages
Micro SD card for mapping and tracklogs

Nearly all we want Garmin have already proven they can do, they just seem buried under a mountain of Auto GPS’s with minor differences and unable to dig themselves out.