3M Scotchlite reflective sheeting?

[Deleted account W]

Does anyone know of a supplier of self-adhesive sheets of this stuff in the UK. I want to be able to cut my own patterns. I want the clear/black (?) stuff as shown in the pic attached.

 

[Vern]

I can get you some of that, but it's illegal on the back of anything that hasn't got police on it

 

[Deleted account W]

I can get you some of that, but it's illegal on the back of anything that hasn't got police on it

Vern, I didn’t know this. Have you experience of people being pulled for using it?

You see an awful lot of HGV trailers with really reflective markings on the back. Is this different stuff?

 

[Jimb]

Has to be Red, but heavy vehicles can have Red & Yellow and plod can have blue, ambulance has Yellow & green.

You can have Yellow on the forks though.

 

[ralphy]

whatton63,
Not sure if this is the answer, but try these: bike seen - they are the UK distributors of AppliedGraphics.com, who (I think) supply what you are looking for

 

[Fanum]

I had a chat with Vern about this stuff when i was ordering my new panniers from him.....isn't it mad that when we try and do something that can only be an aid to safety that we run the risk of getting pulled for some silly construction and use rule.

Question for our tame plods out there......i still fancy putting some of this stuff on the back of my worldbeaters.....if you saw me, would you nick me for it?

Ok, you wouldn't, but how many of your more anal colleagues might do you reckon?

And what's the nicking value...points? fines?

 

[sjjborg]

Reflective stuff

had this reflective stuff on my panniers for about 8 months now over 12000 miles, exactly as in pics and VERY reflective. Not been stopped for it and even had conversations with policemen who have been looking at bike - without any mention. So I did not know it is illegal - how is anyone supposed to? All I can say is that cars stay off your tail for sure. Ordered mine from US mailorder - cost about 16 GBP and worth every penny. Would be keen to know if anyone has had problems with legal?

 

[Jam]

anychance of a link to the site you got them from

thanks

 

[hops]

Question for our tame plods out there......i still fancy putting some of this stuff on the back of my worldbeaters.....if you saw me, would you nick me for it?

Ok, you wouldn't, but how many of your more anal colleagues might do you reckon?

And what's the nicking value...points? fines? [/B][/QUOTE]

Speakly purely for myself I'm not aware of any serious offences in relation to displaying reflective material, that's not to say there isn't any!!

As long as it was not deemed to be misleading, i.e. looking like police markings, I personally would not have a problem.

(Met. Police traffic officer)

 

[Deleted account 220427002]

hi there my friends own a sign making shop i can get a range of colours in reflective my van has orange on it and some of the black that goes white if you shine light on it. the one thing i know is its quite expensive i think it's about £40 for a 1m by 60cm. i could find out if you want. if you can't get sorted else where.

 

[GSAde]

Law I think about not showing a white light to the rear but as to whether white reflective material constitutes a "light" not sure. I was outside a local dealer some time ago when a guy turned up on a GSA with that stuff on the back, an ex bike cop who was there chatting at the time said he COULD be nicked for it but thats not to say would.

I know ignorance is no defence in the law but if you do get pulled & have the right attitude, sorry ocifer didn't know, trying to protect myself from rear end shunts (ooh err) by increasing my visibility, have to be a complete tw@t to nick you - there again

Ade

 

[BawdyMonk]

Try Reflective Decals , good quick service, & some nice designs.

Mine's black on black in the day, and can't be seen, but shows up well in the dark.

 

[BawdyMonk]

I think this lot cost about $25 and I put some on the kids scooters as well

 

[Cooky]

I use www.respro.com I order on line and have them within the week usually. They do lots of fixed designs as well as the cut your own stuff. They also do cut your own stuff for clothes as well as for the bike/helmet.

 

[Deleted account 220427002]

respro prices

i just checked out the respro website the sticker price for an A4 piece was £13, so around £40 for a sheet 1m by 60 cm is not as expensive as it first looks

 

[oblertone]

Legality

As a 'tame plod' I would have to say that I think Adrian is right in that this may fall foul of the 'White Light to the rear' rule, but it would be worth an argument in court as you would be reflecting, not generating the light.

I will post this thread to a friend who is a rat skipper and ask for a ruling, however I can say that 99% of my colleagues would not give you a ticket for this, unless of course you pizzed them off.

In any case you would be entitled to take part in the Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme (VDRS), which means 'Get it fixed and verified at an MoT centre'.

Just a further thought, my black jacket has white scotchlite reflective seams, is that illegal too ?

 

[hops]

Reflective sheet

I've done a quick bit of 'digging' on this subject and it appears that any reflective material on the back must reflect red light only. Here's the legislation bit if it helps!

Regulation 11(2) of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 provides that no vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp or retro reflective material which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light with certain exceptions.
11(2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp or retro reflective material which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except

(a) amber light from a direction indicator or side marker lamp;
(b) white light from a reversing lamp;
(c) white light from a work lamp;
(d) light to illuminate the interior of a vehicle;
(e) light from an illuminated rear registration plate;
(f) light for the purposes of illuminating a taxi meter;
(g) in the case of a bus, light for the purposes of illuminating a route indicator;
(h) blue light and white light from a chequered domed lamp fitted to a police control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(i) white light from a red and white chequered domed lamp, or a red and white segmented mast-mounted warning beacon, fitted to a fire service control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(j) green light and white light from a chequered domed lamp fitted to an ambulance control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;
(k) blue light from a warning beacon or rear special warning lamp fitted to an emergency vehicle, or from any device fitted to a vehicle used for police purposes;
(l) amber light from a warning beacon fitted to:

(i) a road clearance vehicle;
(ii) a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting refuse;
(iii) a breakdown vehicle;
(iv) a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph or any trailer drawn by such a vehicle;
(v) a vehicle having an overall width (including any load) exceeding 2.9 metres;
(vi) a vehicle used for the purpose of testing, maintaining, improving, cleansing or watering roads or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
(vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
(viii) a vehicle used for or in connection with any purpose for which it is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 of the Act.
(ix) a vehicle used for escort purposes when travelling at a speed not exceeding 25 mph;
(x) a vehicle used by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise for the purpose of testing fuels;
(xi) a vehicle used for the purpose of surveying;
(xii) a vehicle used for the removal or immobilisation of vehicles in exercise of a statutory power or duty;

(m) green light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle used by a medical practitioner registered by the General Medical Council (whether with full, provisional or limited registration);

 

[judge]

This question has come up before and I believe MikeO came up with the answer as well as the relevant C&U regs pertaining to it.

In essence stuff fitted to the bike must only 'show a red light', stuff fitted to you do not apply to C&U regs so you can stick a wh neon light up your chuff if you like, so long as its up your chuff and not fitted to the bike it doesn't count (so long as its not amber, blue or green).

MikeO will no doubt be along later to remind us of what he found. That said in spite of what he posted his former Jessey Bags had this very same retro-reflective material attached to the rear of them - which is presumably why he left these shores for the real Hazard County cos John Q Law is after his ass

 

[GuidoT]

So is chrome is out as well?

-- Guido

 

[oblertone]

Thats a fairly comprehensive 'Red only' then. Thank you Judge ! I don't suppose they do Red/Clear ?