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If the 1200GS loses to that girls' bike then I am selling my bike 
PhilM
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Chill, it's doesn't....so bang goes trading it in for a car
I can`t believe the Stelvio came last. I had one for a day and it`s a brilliant bit of kit and performance wise, it kicks the sh*t out of the 1200!!
Don`t think the girls bike will ever replace the rufty tufty 1200 though......
Don`t think the girls bike will ever replace the rufty tufty 1200 though......
Deleted Member I
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If it says it in Bike then it must be true
Yes!
it must be quite bad not getting Bike where you are.
Allright Bilks,
How do you rate the Stelvio against your GSA? Anychance of a mini write up..?
Cheers,
Mike
PhilM
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Ohh thats a shame - reading that obit, he a had a fair old life though, fighting till the end.
totally the opposite for me, i had a Guzzi Norge and wasn't getting on with it, took a Stelvio out for a demo and bought a GS. I'd say that Bike review was accurate, the Stelvio would be OK if you were a Guzzi fan but you'd need to be. Engine lacked oomph and needed revv'ing, once you got it spinning it was OK but IMHO one of the reasons one buys a big twin trailie is for the mid range and lack of gear swapping needed, the GS ain't perfect but has power where i want it. Bike i rode the fuelling seemed off, on a constant throttle it "surged" , told dealer but he said it was OK ?? I'd have preferred a 2V Guzzi engine in that chassis, it would be far more use.
Handling wise the Stelvio felt tall and heavy, i also noticed the bike responded to shaft torque at low speeds making filtering that bit more awkward as it juddered from side to side. Suspension was adequate until you pushed on harder where it seemed to lose control, its always difficult to judge on a test ride, it takes time to adjust to a new bike and as its not yours you ride it a bit differently but i felt it didn't inspire confidence on bumpy B roads where it ended up "bouncing" rather than damping. The GS doesn't give a lot of confidence in its front end at first but it did feel more sorted and in control.
Stupid little things htat didn't seem sorted, the gear lever was positioned so that your inner foot contacts the lever all the time, you almost rest on it, it might be possible to adjust it downwards but then you'd need a more sportbike position to hook your foot under. paint chipping off bash guard with no miles done, overall finish not good.
I've owned 2 Ducati multistradas prior to the norge then GS, the Stelvio is more road orientated and a closer comparison should really be with a multi or tiger, they all share bigger road size rear wheel and don't have off road capability, suspension travel and ground clearance would probably limit the Stelvio.
So, IMHO the Stelvio sits somewhere between a multi and a GS, if you want a tall bar road traillie with a shaft take a look at it, but if you aren't bothered about the shaft I'd take a multistrada every time 50kg lighter and way, way better handling.
Stelvio v's GS I'd say the GS is more refined and finished, maybe a bit bland because of that in which case a Stelvio may be worth a look at if you want different. My experience of Guzzi hasn't been good with the Norge though, QC sadly lacking and bikes suffer from a variety of faults, with the GS one knows there are "quirks" but you can prepare for them
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The only thing they got wrong in this test is that the BMWs are reliable.
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Just read the review .. right I am off to the KTM shop.
Get myself one of them 990 jobbies
Get myself one of them 990 jobbies
The White Rabbit
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Have you ever had a motorbicycle or a bicycle with a chain? Make sure you can lube one before you part with your cash 
I'd laugh if I didnt think you were serious.
I'd laugh if I didnt think you were serious.
rob1964bike
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GS Every time
chain lube
Scottoiler will sort it
Have you ever had a motorbicycle or a bicycle with a chain? Make sure you can lube one before you part with your cash
I'd laugh if I didnt think you were serious.
Scottoiler will sort it
jack.pe
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Engine lacked oomph and needed revv'ing, once you got it spinning it was OK but IMHO one of the reasons one buys a big twin trailie is for the mid range and lack of gear swapping needed, the GS ain't perfect but has power where i want it.
Handling wise the Stelvio felt tall and heavy, i also noticed the bike responded to shaft torque at low speeds making filtering that bit more awkward as it juddered from side to side. Suspension was adequate until you pushed on harder where it seemed to lose control, its always difficult to judge on a test ride, it takes time to adjust to a new bike and as its not yours you ride it a bit differently but i felt it didn't inspire confidence on bumpy B roads where it ended up "bouncing" rather than damping. The GS doesn't give a lot of confidence in its front end at first but it did feel more sorted and in control.
Stupid little things htat didn't seem sorted, the gear lever was positioned so that your inner foot contacts the lever all the time, you almost rest on it, it might be possible to adjust it downwards but then you'd need a more sportbike position to hook your foot under. paint chipping off bash guard with no miles done, overall finish not good.
I've owned 2 Ducati multistradas prior to the norge then GS, the Stelvio is more road orientated and a closer comparison should really be with a multi or tiger, they all share bigger road size rear wheel and don't have off road capability, suspension travel and ground clearance would probably limit the Stelvio.
So, IMHO the Stelvio sits somewhere between a multi and a GS, if you want a tall bar road traillie with a shaft take a look at it, but if you aren't bothered about the shaft I'd take a multistrada every time 50kg lighter and way, way better handling.
Stelvio v's GS I'd say the GS is more refined and finished, maybe a bit bland because of that in which case a Stelvio may be worth a look at if you want different. My experience of Guzzi hasn't been good with the Norge though, QC sadly lacking and bikes suffer from a variety of faults, with the GS one knows there are "quirks" but you can prepare for them
I currently have a GS and agree with one thing you say, that the Guzzi engine is lacking midrange and hence why I did not go for one. However I disagree with almost everything else said. I found the Guzzi to be much better finished than the GS, coatings and paint seem deep, fastners are of good quality and the whole thing gives off an aura of quality. The handling seemed absultely fine to me however the Stelvio is a heavier bike and this is noticeable. I found no issue with the gear lever.
As for Multistradas they are toys in comparison, not real bikes for me, they are tichy, bouce all over the place have snatchy controls and the quality really is crap. The new one should be much better but possibly even more road biased.
I really loved the Guzzi but ultimately although I prefer it to the 1200 in almost every other way for this type of bike the lack of midrange is just too big a fault to overcome for me... they should have used the 4V engine but i'm sure the marketing department won out ont hat decision..
bmwrover
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I have read that in order to check the oil level on the Stelvio you need to remove a plastic piece of the fairing 
jack.pe
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I have read that in order to check the oil level on the Stelvio you need to remove a plastic piece of the fairing
True but they have now modified said piece so you no longer have to remove it..either way it was two allen head srews so not the end of the world, most people just removed it and did not put it back as its not at all noticeable, just a small piece of black plastic.
I have read that in order to check the oil level on the Stelvio you need to remove a plastic piece of the fairing
If we're going to pick faults, on the 12 GSA you have to remove about 10 pieces including the tank just to get at the air filter.
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