muppix
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Aah. That'll teach me to check for new posts on page 2 before replying to a post on page one.
Cheers for that, will give Vines a call tomorrow.
Mup.
Aftermarket (Stebel Magnum?) Horns and other electrical stuff - OEM Connectors wanted
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Aah. That'll teach me to check for new posts on page 2 before replying to a post on page one.
Cheers for that, will give Vines a call tomorrow.
Mup.
jonesai
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er...em having read this topic I am slightly confused 
What is the correct pert number to use?
I bought a stebel magnum recently but not got round to fitting it yet.
Cheers
What is the correct pert number to use?
I bought a stebel magnum recently but not got round to fitting it yet.
Cheers
er...em having read this topic I am slightly confused
What is the correct pert number to use?
Ditto the above -I'm intending to buy & fit a Stebel, but not until I know what connector to use, and if they're available. Surely someone who has fitted one can clarify please ?
muppix
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I haven't been able to get down to Vines to ask about the other part, but might get a chance on Monday. I'm determined to do this the 'proper' way, so gimme a while to sort mine out and I'll post the findings ...
Mup.
Mup.
muppix
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Nope, entirely different I'm afraid.
And I haven't forgotten about the connector, just popped out for a bit and will resume this project as soon as I'm back in the UK.
Mup.
Bananaman
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If you are back in now have you made any discoveries regarding the connector 
Maybe these connectors and others found on a bike are used elsewhere in the auto trade, if so, a call to one of the companies making wiring looms might prove fruitful. Just an idea.
Nick
Nick
theEnglishman
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muppix
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What, one part number for a whole bike?
Just ordered one of those, but it'll take a couple of weeks because there is no stock in the UK or Germany.
It's also £12 whereas the one I already have, the mating half, was less than a fiver, so I wonder if it's really the correct part. We'll have to wait and see I suppose.
Cheers Chaps!
Mup.
muppix
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Yup - it's loud!
OK, time to update this thread - it's only taken me three months to get here!
What turned out to be the correct part arrived in January and cost about £12 (first photo below). Sure enough this fitted perfectly into the wiring loom, which offers the same connector as the one on the right in the second picture.
Interestingly enough (well, for somebody anyway) the female connector that is part of the OEM horn is not perfectly oval. Instead it has a solid tab taking up about a quarter of one side, kind of what you'd expect to see if you had a female version of the right-hand connector in the second picture. It matters not, part number 80 00 0 610 619 is the one you want. (Thanks theEnglishman!)
If you take a closer look at the connector on the end of the loom you'll see why this is so much better, in engineering terms, than the cheap and nasty spade connectors you would otherwise be polluting your OEM wiring with - it's got a locking tab on one side and no less than three rows of silicone rubber seals keep all and sundry away from your precious contacts.
Since you have to fit female spade crimps to the yellow leads of your freshly aquired 2 pole connector in order to mate it to the Stebel horn (which, ironically enough, costs less) my advice would be to not trim the yellow wires too much. After all, moistre and corrosion is bound to mess up the spades at some point and you'll thank your foresight for leaving enough slack in the wire to re-do your handiwork in the distant future.
The horn does not seem to be polarity conscious and reversing the spade connectors had no obvious effect on the volume or the tone. If you plan to test this as soon as it's fitted (and who wouldn't?) then do make sure you fit some ear plugs first, eh? It's easily as loud as the horn on a Land Rover Discovery and isn't muffled by bodywork, which is probably the reason you bought it.
Happy Spannering!
Mup.
OK, time to update this thread - it's only taken me three months to get here!
What turned out to be the correct part arrived in January and cost about £12 (first photo below). Sure enough this fitted perfectly into the wiring loom, which offers the same connector as the one on the right in the second picture.
Interestingly enough (well, for somebody anyway) the female connector that is part of the OEM horn is not perfectly oval. Instead it has a solid tab taking up about a quarter of one side, kind of what you'd expect to see if you had a female version of the right-hand connector in the second picture. It matters not, part number 80 00 0 610 619 is the one you want. (Thanks theEnglishman!)
If you take a closer look at the connector on the end of the loom you'll see why this is so much better, in engineering terms, than the cheap and nasty spade connectors you would otherwise be polluting your OEM wiring with - it's got a locking tab on one side and no less than three rows of silicone rubber seals keep all and sundry away from your precious contacts.
Since you have to fit female spade crimps to the yellow leads of your freshly aquired 2 pole connector in order to mate it to the Stebel horn (which, ironically enough, costs less) my advice would be to not trim the yellow wires too much. After all, moistre and corrosion is bound to mess up the spades at some point and you'll thank your foresight for leaving enough slack in the wire to re-do your handiwork in the distant future.
The horn does not seem to be polarity conscious and reversing the spade connectors had no obvious effect on the volume or the tone. If you plan to test this as soon as it's fitted (and who wouldn't?) then do make sure you fit some ear plugs first, eh? It's easily as loud as the horn on a Land Rover Discovery and isn't muffled by bodywork, which is probably the reason you bought it.
Happy Spannering!
Mup.
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zerocool
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Will ive been following this thread as I wanted a Nautilus.
So I got it from Halfrauds for £22.99, less than NN and went about installing it via a relay.
At this point I started cursing at my dealer for not finding this issue as I found the wiring to the horn had been redone by a 5 year old. Using choc block and hot melt glue then black electrical tape to hide it all.
It basically fell to peices in my hands so if I hadnt got a new horn I would have been forced too shortly. The wiring was corroded where "they" had not sucessfully handled a glue gun to seal it. WHAT A MESS.
Needless to say is the highlight of my day to show somebody my new horn and wait till they look under the beak before blasting a toot right at them.
I went for crimped spades and im gonna get some shrink wrap to seal em up as good as possible to the terminals, there will always be the potential for water in there so can only do my best.
All the wiring goes into cavity where ABS should be and is neatly (or will be soon) tidied away in what should be a waterproof area.
Ive made a bracket to make it all easier to mount the electrics as im planning on bunging in a load more!!!
So I got it from Halfrauds for £22.99, less than NN and went about installing it via a relay.
At this point I started cursing at my dealer for not finding this issue as I found the wiring to the horn had been redone by a 5 year old. Using choc block and hot melt glue then black electrical tape to hide it all.
It basically fell to peices in my hands so if I hadnt got a new horn I would have been forced too shortly. The wiring was corroded where "they" had not sucessfully handled a glue gun to seal it. WHAT A MESS.
Needless to say is the highlight of my day to show somebody my new horn and wait till they look under the beak before blasting a toot right at them.
I went for crimped spades and im gonna get some shrink wrap to seal em up as good as possible to the terminals, there will always be the potential for water in there so can only do my best.
All the wiring goes into cavity where ABS should be and is neatly (or will be soon) tidied away in what should be a waterproof area.
Ive made a bracket to make it all easier to mount the electrics as im planning on bunging in a load more!!!
1200 sorted - what is needed for 1150?
An early post mentioned part 61138365340
Is this the part required for fitting to an 1150?
Thanks all
A
An early post mentioned part 61138365340
Is this the part required for fitting to an 1150?
Thanks all
A
zerocool
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computer say no, i think its for 1200
twisticles
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Just for information, Nippy Norman is supplying the connectors as Hard wiring kit for BMW bikes with Can-Bus wiring Suitable for twin F650GS, F800GS, 1200GS etc.
So you can get your stebel magnum and wiring kit at the same time and keep your OEM loom intact
So you can get your stebel magnum and wiring kit at the same time and keep your OEM loom intact
Bora20
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Are you connecting directly to the horn circuit or are you using a relay system?
The previous owner had my Stebel running through the a relay circuit, but I don't think that this is necessary. Especially since I never use the horn. I think that an uprated fuse would be more than sufficient for the Stebel.
Ideas???
The previous owner had my Stebel running through the a relay circuit, but I don't think that this is necessary. Especially since I never use the horn. I think that an uprated fuse would be more than sufficient for the Stebel.
Ideas???
Thunder
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On bikes which use a can bus system you have no fuses to uprate and a relay is needed to prevent the can bus tripping owing to the extra load every time you use the horn.
Bora20
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I guess I should have specified what bike: R1150GSA
Scarverspain
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BMW OEM Horn - loom connector
.....the OEM connectors strike me as an infinitely better solution that even the best spade / bullet crimps found on other bikes. They're waterproof and you can't accidentally reverse the polarity, which is important to me on a bike......
The horn connector on the loom is a two-pole ( brown and green ) TYCO mate'n'lock - TYCO is now TE Connectors, but their catalogue is so vast that life's not long enough to search through all 2,000 mate'n'lock items to find this horn connector on the Scarver loom.
Does BMW spares provide this item ? Anybody ?
ALAN
.....the OEM connectors strike me as an infinitely better solution that even the best spade / bullet crimps found on other bikes. They're waterproof and you can't accidentally reverse the polarity, which is important to me on a bike......
The horn connector on the loom is a two-pole ( brown and green ) TYCO mate'n'lock - TYCO is now TE Connectors, but their catalogue is so vast that life's not long enough to search through all 2,000 mate'n'lock items to find this horn connector on the Scarver loom.
Does BMW spares provide this item ? Anybody ?
ALAN
The Stebel Magnum, with the Nippy Norman's cable, fit really neatly into the space for the carbon canister for US spec bikes. However, you do need to bend the spade-connectors up to avoid fouling the forks.
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