Airhead Oil API Quirey

VAL. H.

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Yes I know it's yet another oil thread :confused: But bear with me.

In other threads about oil and also in the Haynes manual I see that there seems to be a bit of fixed thinking going on (as in RTFM, that's what it says so it must be the absolute truth and wo-be-tied if this rule is broken). Maybe not quite that fixed, but you get my drift?

According to the Book. I should be using API: SF, SG, SH. Interestingly these are all grades that have been superceded by newer specifications, which explains why they are not so easy to find these days in the grades requiered. Some interesting reading here. I was rumaging through my old part used oil bottles and found that Halfords 15/50 motor oil conforms to API SL, which is a higher spec than those above. Is is there a reason why I should not be using something like this?
Or indeed any reason I shouldn't use this? a fully synthetic 20/50 Motor oil (yes they do make a comparable motorcycle oil, which is also fully synthetic. But that's not why I'm asking these questions).

Is there any reason why I should NOT use any oils with a newer API rating. As long as I can get them in the requiered grades?

Is there a reason why I should not use a fully synthetic oil in the Airheads?

I know that Motorcycle oil is slightly different from car engine oil. However, this I believe is because motorcycles generally have wet multi plate clutches and the gearbox incorperated within the engine and relying on the same oil, where the BMW boxers do not. The argument for motorcycles having much tighter tolorences, gears included in the equasion so therefore needing better oils (I'm thinking) no longer stands in the case of the Airheads. This is because car engines are being made with much tighter tolorences too, in order to conform with the ever increasing emissions laws, the demands for better efficientcy and economy. Which to my thinking means that any modern car engine oil must surly be as good or better than these old type SF, SG, SH oils, which where recomended for use in the Airheads way back in the late seventies through to the mid ninties.

Oil has plainly moved on. Does that mean the Airheads and the like have been left behind and we are at the mercy of the oil producers to supply these old oils? Is it not more likely that the modern oils can safely be used in the older bikes of this eara. That the API ratings are improvements on the past ratings rather than something new alltogether?


Val.
 
VAl,
I fear to get involved in "Another Oil" debate, but here goes, and this is just info from mechanic who does any difficult bits on my bike. He works on lots of BM's, 1200's and Airheads.
He also used to race Suzukis, so knows his stuff, as he did all his own setting-up on his bikes- when I asked him about the merits of mineral over semi-synth and full snyth oils,
he said it is just not worth the considerable extra expense to use full synthetic oil in a low revving bike like the airheads. Synth oil only comes into its own when it reaches high temps, and very high revs. Neither of those apply to the even slightly modded airheads ( unless you are Richie Moore of course !!).
So, semi synth does for me, and has added advantage that it can happily be mixed/topped-up with mineral oil if needs be, which cannot be said for fully synth oil.
My GS PD runs on SAE 20/50 semi synth, and gets changed every 6K miles or less.
So, that's about the extent of my knowledge of oil, apart from Olive Oil- Extra Virgin please. :hug
 
no expert but the new API specs do supercede the older ones .. i wouldnt alter the grade ie 15/40 from 20/50 etc......as for synthetics there is no benefits to be had on the boxer engine...i ran my r80g/s from 83-91 on comma 20w50 for 136,000 miles and my r1100rt 99-05 60,000 miles on the same no probs whatsoever
 
IIRC oils after SG or SH spec have additives designed for cat equipped engines which don't play well with certain, older bearing materials.

i might have been misinformed, or just not remembered correctly, but i think that's the gist of it.
 
I was sitting smugly on top of my newly delivered 25 litres of mineral 20/50 API SF oil from, Morrisons...when wifey came out and saw me, saying "are they all as sad as you ":confused:

Now, how do I get it out of the 25 litre container :blast
 
Now, how do I get it out of the 25 litre container :blast

you can get a little pumpy thing that screws on, cheap from motor factors.

got one somewhere, but i gave up on it and just decant manually now.
 


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