Alarm or big chain

cabby

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Thinking of installing a Datatool system 3/4 for a GSA. Some say that their system has been brilliant others that they break down and are a real hastle to take out. Is a big chain better / less hastle?

Thanks for your input
 
Oh please NOT alarm... they go off if a bird lands on the handlebars or a feather floats to the seat... They wake me up. A bl**dy great chain is just as effective against a passing thief who takes a fancy. And, if they're professionals, nothing will stop them.
 
say what you mean guys, don't beat around the bush....

a lock it is then...
easier for me to understand as well...

thanks all
 
Only insurance companies seem to like alarms :confused:

Chain = obvious deterent to a casual thief as has been said earlier a proffesional won't be bothered by anything that we can legally do :(
 
Decster said:
Almax chain and an Abus U-Lock. :thumb2

Alarms aint worth shite:rob
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+1 :thumb2 No point in making it easy for the thieving bar stewards :mcgun

I also quite liked the flamethrower solution that did the rounds under cars in South Africa a couple of years back. As John Armstrong said, somewhat outwith the legal realms over here
 
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I am problably a bit paranoid but I sleep easier knowing my bike is alarmed and secured by the Almax Series 4 chain fixed to a decent ground anchor such as the Ymax or Hardie. I also have an almax Series3 which I carry around on the bike.

The alarm wont stop the bike being taken, but it will deter the thief from spending too long trying to remove the chain. if you check out Almax site videos http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/ you will get a good idea of how long it actually takes to remove some chains.

I also agree that some alarms can be a bit over sensitive, generally speaking a good quality alarm sensitivity can be adjusted to a sensible level where it takes a reasonable shunt to activate.

I am not associated with Almax in any way, I am just impressed by the quality of their product..
 
wildbeeste said:
Well that me off to buy an Almax chain now. Very impressive.
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Wildbeeste, I would have thought with your professional experience that you would be well aware of the tricks of the trade of footpads and taken steps before now to reduce their scheming! By the way, wonderful quote from MT. Our son just left for a gap year in Aus - very appropriate. I'll send it to him.
 
Diamaduk said:
if you check out Almax site videos http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/ you will get a good idea of how long it actually takes to remove some chains.

I am not associated with Almax in any way, I am just impressed by the quality of their product..
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I am not associated with Almax either, but I do know Zanx from Visordown/TRC, the big bald fella in some of the Almax vids.
He too isn't actually connected with Almax, he is just a very concerned customer who had a few bikes nicked and started investigating locks and chains privately and soon found RiDE product reviews and even more scarily Thatcham ratings (at the time, I believe they might have improved since) were not worth the paper they were printed on.
He ONLY uses techniques that are in common use by thieves and that are easily portable.
IIRC there are a couple of other makes of chain 16mm+ that almost compare to Almax, and the rest are utter toss.
 
I'd like to see how an Almax would stand up to an Angle grinder .
Now that De Walt broke the unwritten agreement amongst toolmakers NOT to make a cordless angle grinder.:spitfire:spitfire it's been open house for the towrag thieving pikey bastards.
Within 6 months, from NO Cordless angle grinders to today > 14.4v Makita available for £200 :spitfire:spitfire
They are top of thieving bastards Xmas lists :spitfire:spitfire

£449 cost, but could be recovered in one fecking night

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....akeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:uk

Why didn't they ban the feckers, as was wanted by the security and insurance businesses.
any fecker caught with one of them ought to [IMHO] be charged with "going equipped "
 
Decster said:
:thumb2 Send them an email and tell them that they can demonstrate it at the next UKGSer meet and you will know by their reply or lack of what the story is in regards to their locks vs angle grinders...
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NO chain will stand up to more than a few seconds attack from an angle grinder.
Almax will happily admit that.

As someone stated earlier. If someone really want's your bike, not bolt on security is gonna stop them.

Snoopy - Bulldog may well be good. Almax are far from overhyped tho.
Zanx's tests speak for themselves.
 
snoopy said:
I'm sure I've had this argument before, Almax chains are over-hyped by bikers that have watched the adv rider videos. Check out Bulldog chains (hardened baron alloy steel). Expensive but you get what you pay for.

http://www.bulldogsecure.com/bulldog.shopfront/category/98/uSID044454-516-505
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Over-hyped? My bikes including an un alarmed HP2 have always been parked on the street with an Almax to keep them safe. Never lost one yet :thumb

What did you have on your 650 when it went walkabout?
 
ovenpaa said:
Over-hyped? My bikes including an un alarmed HP2 have always been parked on the street with an Almax to keep them safe. Never lost one yet :thumb

What did you have on your 650 when it went walkabout?
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It's Snoopy FFS:blast, he probally disagreed with how to fit it and ignored the instructions:augie
 
Had far too many problems buying bikes with alarms fitted to ever want to buy one with one fitted again.

Chains locked to something fixed, disk lock with reminder tag :blast for convenience, but never nothing or just steering lock cos I've seen first hand how piss easy they are to overcome. And out of choosing I'll always park next to a newer less secured bike which is very easy to do in Lunnon Town ;)
 
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