Anyone use these bulbs?

Are you really that concerned that someone behind you is not going to see you? :nenau
There's already too many blinding LED brake lights on most modern cars and you want to fit a halogen one:confused:
 
I regret to say that the pedant comes out in me.

When I did electrical engineering, I was taught that a bulb was something that you planted and it grew.
Lamps are a different thing altogether.
Myke
 
When I did electrical engineering, I was taught that a bulb was something that you planted and it grew.
Lamps are a different thing altogether.
Myke

Your absolutely right and its something they take great care to stress early on in the education, lecturers hate the term bulb. That said it has absolutely nothing to do with CANbus either whether it will work or not but rather everything to do with the ZF controler. Ultimately though nobody cares so its bulbs and CANbus.
 
We always called the light fittings "lamps" and the light emitters were "bulbs". But they became interchangeable and have now swapped over. Does anyone care?

Too bright tail lights are a menace. Try following Mrs Mop in motorway rain when she (can't be too careful) puts on her high intensity rear fog lamp. After a while you want to shoot the stupid cow.

Put them on a bike and you deserve to get rear ended by some poor sod with red spots burnt into his retinas.

The BMW tail and stop light has gives perfectly good visibility in all weather conditions except a proper pea soup fog. Ive not seen fog bad enough to need high intensity taillights since the early 1980s. Thick falling snow maybe but generally they cause more dazzle than benefit.
 
Aren't BMW about to fit a version of rapid-flashing brake light bulbs to 2016 model GS's?

Maybe it's only for bikes sold in the USA?
They are but it is under heavy/emergency braking only so is rarely activated. It's also led so will flash properly unlike a tungsten lamp that has to cool and heat.
No idea about the legality of a permanently flashing brake light but it would be really annoying for anyone following.
 
Flickering as LEDs can might be ok but they should be no brighter than normal and only on brake light. Flickering tail lights would be grounds for road rage.
 
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No idea about the legality of a permanently flashing brake light but it would be really annoying for anyone following.

I remember a long time ago San Francisco trialled an experiment with the cities taxi fleet using rapid-flashing brake lights but it was deemed a failure due to distracting other road users so the idea was dropped.

As far as legality goes, I assume it is perfectly legal for brake lamps to flash rapidly as that is exactly what happens now when cadence braking on a normal system. Tail lamps are not affected and work as normal.
 
I followed a bloke the other day on an ordinary downhill. His brake lights were on all the way down, but he wasn't slowing at all. He's probably one of those who "covers the brakes" and triggers the switch only. After a minute or two of that, his LED brake lights were seriously dazzling and of course no clue as to when he really does apply the brakes. The car design is wrong to use a simple mechanical switch (rather than pressure switch in the hydraulics) and the driver needs to rethink his habits.

What's the point? Flickering brake lights would have been horrendous. What could following drivers do? Flash the headlight's? Hardly as that's an angry hurry up to most people. Sunglasses maybe?
 
I remember a long time ago San Francisco trialled an experiment with the cities taxi fleet using rapid-flashing brake lights but it was deemed a failure due to distracting other road users so the idea was dropped.

As far as legality goes, I assume it is perfectly legal for brake lamps to flash rapidly as that is exactly what happens now when cadence braking on a normal system. Tail lamps are not affected and work as normal.

It wouldn't have helped that indicators are (or at least were) red in the USA.

I followed a bloke the other day on an ordinary downhill. His brake lights were on all the way down, but he wasn't slowing at all.

Probably an automatic and he used the brakes in preference to manually knocking it down a couple of gears to get some engine braking.
 
Probably an automatic and he used the brakes in preference to manually knocking it down a couple of gears to get some engine braking.

Possibly but there was no slowing effect and (most) normal people brake then take their foot off and maybe brake again. I was not using any brakes and the cars ahead of Mr LEDs were not showing brake lights, yet we were all rolling along at the same pace.

Whatever the reason, I needed new retinas after a minute or two of that treatment.
 
I totally understand you Bendy being pissed off by brake lights on a downhill. I have a 530gt BMW that is eight speed auto and am frequently feeling embarrassed that I am ON the Brakes downhill in a thirty particularly when a camera is present. The eight speed has no engine brake effect and just creeps on faster. I do use the paddles to down shift but being a heavy car the engine revs just go higher as a rule. So frequent dabs required. I annoy myself actually as I know what I would think if I were following on the bike what with high level brake lights and all. Must try harder, or avoid downhills. Apologies if ever you been tailing me.
 
Read this with interest as I'm about to approach Les on here for some DRLs he offered me a while back.

But tell me, am I the only person who's noticed lots of brake lights designs now arranged as an indicator surrounding the brake light. The worst and most prevalent is the 'new' mini but models of the Range Rover suffer the same design fault (that is what I consider it to be). When the brake lights are on, it's really hard to see the indicator. Frankly I can't believe it had passed the approval process.

Sorry, a little off topic!

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Next we will be going on about those that switch on rear fogs or whatever when its only raining....glare across the visor or what? But we wont go there. I hope

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.........................am I the only person who's noticed lots of brake lights designs now arranged as an indicator surrounding the brake light. The worst and most prevalent is the 'new' mini but models of the Range Rover suffer the same design fault (that is what I consider it to be). When the brake lights are on, it's really hard to see the indicator. Frankly I can't believe it had passed the approval process. ....................

I'm with you on that, first noticed it on a previous model VW Passat where the indicator was within the ring shaped brake light. This morning in the dark some little Korean looking city car with a similar design braked before signalling and it took me a while to even realise their indicator was on.Their crap road positioning didn't suggest that they were turning right either. Indicators built into headlight assemblies are just as bad.
 


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