Anyone used soft luggage without pannier racks?

Perfect, so what size are those?
That is the original Reckless 80 kit. I think they are on version 4 now so it's all been updated with some tweaks.

I also have their small version for day trips on the trails and when not camping, which fits the KTM equally well.

I've always ordered direct via their EU site (think it's in Holland but might be wrong) and it arrives a few days later.
 
I’ve looked at this site before. Do you know if there are any extra taxes or VAT as am I correct in assuming this is a European site?
EU site, somewhere. The currency options don't offer sterling so maybe not a shop geared towards UK.
 
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Kriega OS18's. No racks, just a tensioned strap from the rear of the footrest up to the back of the seat. Kept heavier items in the panniers, and lightweight but bulky stuff in the Drybag.
Mark
 
kriega 30 attached to bike then rhinowalk 30 strapped to that

1400 miles in just over a week and they didnt move

i dont normally go away long enuff to bring two but this seemed to work kit in one and tools and locks in the other

stable to at least 90

i have bought a rack and box since as they were cheaper than the kriega :D had the kriega 10 years plus and had never used the rhino even tho bought before covid
 
Most decent soft panniers will have loops fitted. If you're prepared to get creative with some shock cord, cam straps etc you should be able to create a system that works well.

Don't forget the leading edges which can 'wander' in the headwind if not secured.
 
So now I’ve got to work out what size I need. 15 L tank bag, 30 L rear soft bag so I’m thinking along the lines of 2x9 / 12ltr.
 
I had the BMW rear rack fitted. The standard Kriega loops fit nicely to the side grab bars, and Kriega 20L + 2x10L fit well - no rubbing, and no ‘orrible webbing all over the back seat.
The BMW rack is stupid expensive, and I know there are cheaper lookalikes available.

And - yes - this would be a better post with pictures, but I can’t be ar5ed🤪

On a separate note, I had the dealer fit the nav mount; Carpuride 502BS works, but not the wonder wheel
 


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