In a similar vein, the motorways in germany are also tolled as the Germans were also fed up of the number of lorries transitting through Germany knackering their autobahns. But the toll only applies to lorries (which have to carry a transponder in the cab, similar to the unit that the Austrians use). Check it out next time you come to Germany: at the border you will see a sign about the tolls on the autobahn and at regular distances you will see gantries over the motorway which carry the sensors and (I believe) number plate recognition cameras too. Lorries have to pay per kilometre driven.
Are Swiss vignettes always needed ?
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I was there a couple of weeks ago, and purchased a vignette. I can't remember how much it cost, as in comparison to the total cost of the trip, it wasn't a significant amount of money. In the grand scheme of things, I don't understand why people get so worked up about it.
Well there you have it, John.
Bods are quite happy to spend thousands of quid on a bike, hundreds more on ‘bling’, yet more on riding gear, GPS devices, Bluetooth, radios, endless methods of getting MP3 tunes from a dumb device into their ears (as they can’t live without tunes) sticky (or knobbly) rubber…. The list goes on and on…
... and then search out (or more likely be told) every 'great road' from their front door to the ‘must do’ roads of the Alps…..
only to then object to lobbing out the price of a few pints (or a doubtless expensive coffee or three) on a bloody carnet.
Tell you what chaps:
DON’T GO THERE IF IT PAINS YOU SO MUCH or SPEND TEN MINUTES FROM YOUR FECKING BUSY DAY WORKING OUT A WAY NOT TO USE THE BLOODY MOTORWAYS OF SWITZERLAND!
Of course most of won’t bother (or can’t) as they do possess the combined whit of a nest of centipedes, preferring to moan about how unfair it fecking well is.
It's a pity the French didn't introduce their high-viz rules, as that would have cut most of them at the coast of England, exercising their right to protest at having their 'Rights as Bikers' interfered with.
PS It's only a matter of time before one of them blames the Swiss carnets on the EU
Purely as a point of order, and not wanting to seem pedantic, but, should that not be 'combined WISDOM', rather than 'WHIT'??
whit
noun bit, drop, piece, trace, scrap, dash, grain, particle, fragment, atom, pinch, shred, crumb, mite, jot, speck, modicum, least bit, iota It does not make one whit of difference what we do.
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Wit
Wit is a form of intelligent humour, the ability to say or write things that are clever and usually funny. A wit is a person skilled at making clever and funny remarks. Forms of wit include the quip and repartee. Wikipedia
whit [wɪt]
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(usually used with a negative) the smallest particle; iota; jot he has changed not a whit
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Boring I know, but not as boring as dribbling on about vignettes, one of which I have happily bought for my French holiday in a couple of weeks, some of which may or may not involve riding my motorcycle on a Swiss motorway. And I'll stick it on my screen so you can't buy it off me when I get back.
But I don't want any piss boiled....
I'll pop my head above the parapet and ask a question: Do they register the vignette against a particular vehicle and registration plate? And, having purchased a vignette, do you actually have to display it on the bike? Or just have it available if asked?
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No they don't and yes you do
its that funny tasting green stuff you get in your mega burger.
You should stick it on, but then you cannot sell it afterwards
I tape a small plastic zip-top bag to the screen so it is on display and from all but a few feet it is hard to tell it is not stuck on directly, if stopped I will go for the ignorance defence - never needed to, but I know I am risking a fine against getting most my money back.
Pays yer money and take your gamble, you can:-
1. Go without and hope you don't get stopped (highest risk of getting caught and gauranteed a fine)
2. Buy one and tape it on hoping to sell it later (lower chance of getting stopped, maybe wriggle out of fine, can re-sell afterwards if not caught and forced to stick it on properly)
3. Buy it, affix properly and travel worry free
PS. if anyone has one to sell I am a willing buyer
Kintessack GSr
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Come on guys surely you've heard of the Vaseline trick
You missed the blindingly obvious Number 4 option.....
After riding all that way to Switzerland,avoid the fecking motorways,enjoy the rural roads and passes,and not even need a fecking Vignette at all.
You missed the blindingly obvious Number 4 option.....
After riding all that way to Switzerland,avoid the fecking motorways,enjoy the rural roads and passes,and not even need a fecking Vignette at all.
I normally find I need to use them for convenience at some point, this year heading towards the Dolomites and Austria I need to make some progress on the second day to get from mid France to beyond Andermatt, also need to make some quick progress on way back out of Austria.
On my previous trips we entered or left the Alps via the Black Forest and needed to cross the part of Switzerland that is not in the Alps, a Vignette is preferable to city traffic IMO - and certainly cheaper than an extra two days off work / two tanks of fuel required to avoid the Motorways.
Both Tarka and Rasher have it right.
If anyone really objects to paying Swiss motorway charges (or French, or Austrian for that matter) and has the time (and the ability) available to plot and ride a route that misses out the motorways, then riding in Switzerland is tax free. The coffee stops will pull your pants down and shaft you; but hey-ho, that's life in the Cantons.
The rest have just six very simple choices:
Like choosing underpants, do whatever suits you best on the day. And... Like your choice of underpants..... nobody really cares.
If anyone really objects to paying Swiss motorway charges (or French, or Austrian for that matter) and has the time (and the ability) available to plot and ride a route that misses out the motorways, then riding in Switzerland is tax free. The coffee stops will pull your pants down and shaft you; but hey-ho, that's life in the Cantons.
The rest have just six very simple choices:
- Moan / don't moan (also applies to those above). Preferably don't.
- Cough up - Stick carnet on bike / don't stick carnet on bike
- Don't cough up - Be lucky / be unlucky
- Buy a second hand carnet - Stick on bike / don't stick on bike
- Sell-on unstuck carnets / don't sell-on unstuck carnets
- Don't go anywhere near Switzerland at all
Like choosing underpants, do whatever suits you best on the day. And... Like your choice of underpants..... nobody really cares.
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I`ll have mine on the market after 20th July when I get backPS. if anyone has one to sell I am a willing buyer
Probably something most members haven`t seen in years
havent got a motorway pass or what ever but I have some used underpants, used on my trip last week to the black forest, if anyone wants to buy them your welcome
swissrob
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- complain when swiss police fine you for driving / riding like a cnut and then vow to boycott the country
i would love to stop in Switzerland who wouldnt i cant afford to stop
if they had reasonable prices we would,so they have themselves to blame.
i went over for the day from Chamonix last year i had no idea about charges i had never been to switzerland before.
i stopped at the border no one came out,i went in and asked for a stamp in my passport full blown refusal,which was petty and mean.
then i just rode up the sides of mountains for fun,i went in a mcdonalds and had the smallest burger on sale which took half my weeks wages.
i loved the place but could not afford it.
also i didnt know about the strict speed limits so lets say i was very lucky
i stopped at the border no one came out,i went in and asked for a stamp in my passport full blown refusal,which was petty and mean.
then i just rode up the sides of mountains for fun,i went in a mcdonalds and had the smallest burger on sale which took half my weeks wages.
i loved the place but could not afford it.
also i didnt know about the strict speed limits so lets say i was very lucky
I travel through Switzerland at least once or twice per year by car or bike.
The adhesive on the vignette will ruin your plexiglass screen on the bike.
Last time, it was the policeman at the border that told me I could put it under the seat.
Or you can stick it on the forks.
I don't see all the fuss with the vignette.
Completely agree with Wapping on the matter.
The adhesive on the vignette will ruin your plexiglass screen on the bike.
Last time, it was the policeman at the border that told me I could put it under the seat.
Or you can stick it on the forks.
I don't see all the fuss with the vignette.
Completely agree with Wapping on the matter.
i would love to stop in Switzerland who wouldnt i cant afford to stop
if they had reasonable prices we would,so they have themselves to blame.
The above is a tad off track but it`s a refreshing change from all the fecking Vignette bollox.
Of course you can stop.
Stop...look around....take your own butties and drinks.
Then pop across the border for reasonably priced accommodation.
I begrudge the cost of things in Switzerland and although I think it`s a beautiful place I also think it`s bland and characterless.
Rather like a life size model railway scenic setting.
My answer is to ride through if in that part of our world but not to base myself there.
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