ATGATT from the start

[Timolgra]

"The following has been advised by the DSA
DSA reminds motorcycle test candidates to wear appropriate clothing
Publisher: Driving Standards Agency
Published date:16 June 2011
Type:Story
Mode/topic:Roads, Road safety
DSA is reminding learner motorcyclists to wear suitable clothing when they take their module one and two motorcycle tests.

While most motorcycle trainers encourage their pupils to wear the best protective motorcycle gear that they can afford, some candidates aren’t following this advice.

DSA doesn’t want to restrict candidates to wearing the most expensive protective motorcycle clothing. However, DSA’s examiners won’t ignore or condone riding a motorcycle or scooter while wearing unsuitable clothing.

Tests won’t go ahead if you are inappropriately dressed
From 1 July, examiners might tell you that your test won’t go ahead if you arrive inappropriately dressed. However, where possible, examiners will give you the chance to find suitable clothing within the time available.

DSA won’t pay out-of-pocket expenses if your test is cancelled because of inappropriate clothing.

Guide to suitable clothing
As a general guide the following is an indication of the minimum level of clothing acceptable:

•motorcycle boots
•sturdy footwear or boots that provide support and ankle protection
•textile or leather motorcycle trousers
•heavy denim trousers
•heavy denim jacket with several layers underneath
•textile or leather motorcycle jacket
•motorcycle gloves
The following are examples of clothing that are not acceptable:

•lightweight training shoes
•canvas basket ball trainers
•any form of clothing with areas of exposed skin
•shell suit or lightweight tracksuit
•distressed ripped jeans
•lightweight fleece or hoody
•no gloves or skiing gloves
In all cases it’s a legal requirement that riders wear an approved and correctly fastened motorcycle helmet,* with suitable eye protection (*an exception is made for members of the Sikh religion wearing a turban).

Cases of inappropriate clothing
Recently there have been cases where candidates have arrived unsuitably dressed for the practical test. This has included wearing lightweight nylon shell suits, lightweight canvas training shoes, or wearing no gloves.

One of these cases resulted in the test not going ahead

 

[Sleepy]

Doesn't seem too harsh, a pair of jeans and some boots, plus a jacket, hardly ATGATT, a good Idea methinks.

 

[Dahoum]

This has included wearing lightweight nylon shell suits, lightweight canvas training shoes, or wearing no gloves.

Essex or Merseyside

 

[Vern]

Since when have you had to have eye protection then?

 

[everywherevirtually]

On the day of my test I had all the gear but my fellow student was wearing shell suit pants and trainers. He was failed and I did wonder if that had a part to play in events as he kept saying "I didn't do anything wrong".

 

[Steptoe]

The thin edge of the wedge as the nanny state starts to enforce clothing rules.

 

[Timolgra]

Since when have you had to have eye protection then?

Yes, it's not a legal requirement to wear eye protection but if you do it has to meet EU standards, go figure

 

[Vern]

I got pulled with a load of other organ donors a couple of years ago,and plod started telling me about my iridium visor being illegal and it had to be kite marked an BS stamped. I told him I always carried a clear one,but never used eye protection. He demanded to see the clear one,as "that will have a kite mark on it" so making my argument void.

One of the good things about buying cheap visors from the USA is they don't have kite marks.

I offered to go to court about it, but plod let me go

 

[Lord Snooty]

The DSA could be on thin ice here as the only legal requirement is the helmet. It s almost a as if they are trying to implement their own laws without the trouble of going through parliament. If they refuse to allow someone to take their test and refuse a refund based on an edict that is no law then they could find themselves challenged in the courts.

 

[The Reverend]

Given that there needs to be a common sense foundation upon which to start building the 'good role model' bricks of tomorrows riders, I don't quite get the pernickety points here.

Are you worried about the DSA acting as Judge & Jury because of an errant comma in a sentence?

If you find that case, I'll buy you all a pint..

Now relax, and bask in the knowledge that if they get through this the army of volunteer 'advanced' riding will descend on them insisting that they now start to use the other foot to stop with.

 

[MikeP]

Now relax, and bask in the knowledge that if they get through this the army of volunteer 'advanced' riding will descend on them insisting that they now start to use the other foot to stop with.

I rather hope that they are taught to use the brakes to stop with.

 

[PeterSX]

The DSA could be on thin ice here as the only legal requirement is the helmet. It s almost a as if they are trying to implement their own laws without the trouble of going through parliament. If they refuse to allow someone to take their test and refuse a refund based on an edict that is no law then they could find themselves challenged in the courts.

Are any parts of the driving test set in law ?
Peter

 

[Timolgra]

Are any parts of the driving test set in law ?
Peter

Many elements are at the discretion of the examiner, so if he feels a candidate isn't suitably dressed/protected for a test he's not using the law to make his decision.

 

[sockpuppet]

Isn't the examiner supervising the student until they've passed the test in the same way as the person doing the training is. Therefore if they don't want to take people out without wearing xyz then they're allowed to make that call.

 

[The Reverend]

I rather hope that they are taught to use the brakes to stop with.

I like that..