Autocom, Zumo and phone?

[pablo666]

This is my thinking am I correct?
The Zumo can Bluetooth with a phone so if I am hard-wired via head set to autocom to zumo, can I receive phone calls?

(Or will I need the Bluetooth Dongle and Bluetooth headset?)

 

[Thunder]

This is my thinking am I correct?
The Zumo can Bluetooth with a phone so if I am hard-wired via head set to autocom to zumo, can I receive phone calls?

(Or will I need the Bluetooth Dongle and Bluetooth headset?)

The beauty of pairing your phone to the Zumo is that it updates itself with your phones address book and call records memory each time it's turned on which makes using the phone on the move simple as all operations are touch screen based and incoming calls are shown by name if from a caller in your phone book.

If you already have an Autocom all you need is part no 1299 or 1300 depending on the model which is a Zumo specific adapter and retails at £38.

If it's 1299 then I have one listed in the For Sale section BTW

 

[The Bede]

... OK I think I understand the principle: -
- Link the phone to the Zumo using Bluetooth.
- Put your music on the Zumo.
- Hook the Zumo to your Autocom (I've got an Active-Plus)
... and then you've got music, GPS and phone all piped into your lid via the hard-wire Autocom headset and it's all controlled from the Zumo touch screen. Tres chic, exactly what I'm looking for in an 'integrated system'

... Here's what I'm curious about

... £38 for a lead (part number 1299)

... The last phone lead I bought for my Autocom was a fiver

... Ok maybe it's two leads at the Garmin end, microphone (2.5mm) and audio output (3.5mm) spliced into a single 3.5mm 4-pin for Aux2 on your Easi/Active/Pro Autocom. But where the feck did £38 come from?

 

[Deleted account LB]

... OK I think I understand the principle: -
- Link the phone to the Zumo using Bluetooth.
- Put your music on the Zumo.
- Hook the Zumo to your Autocom (I've got an Active-Plus)
... and then you've got music, GPS and phone all piped into your lid via the hard-wire Autocom headset and it's all controlled from the Zumo touch screen. Tres chic, exactly what I'm looking for in an 'integrated system'

... Here's what I'm curious about

... £38 for a lead (part number 1299)

... The last phone lead I bought for my Autocom was a fiver

... Ok maybe it's two leads at the Garmin end, microphone (2.5mm) and audio output (3.5mm) spliced into a single 3.5mm 4-pin for Aux2 on your Easi/Active/Pro Autocom. But where the feck did £38 come from?

I have the same setup so this may help

Autocom under the seat
ipod plugged direct to Autocom via supplied lead = Music
Bluetooth Dongle or hardwire connection from Zumo 500 to Autocom
If you use the bluetooth dongle set the headset in bluetooth options to autocom dongle (on your Zumo)

Pair the phone to Zumo via bluetooth.

Then

Play music, if Zumo talks, the music will drop.

If phone rings you hear it through Autocom then press Zumo to answer if you want or set phone to auto answer

Hope this helps

 

[The Bede]

... hardwire connection from Zumo 500 to Autocom

...Pair the phone to Zumo via bluetooth.

... Understand all the connections. I'll ditch my MP3 player and use the Zumo for music and phone.

... It's the £38 for the 'hardwire connection' I need explaining

... £38 , are they 'avin a larf

 

[ciderman gs]

the problem i have just found if you use the zumo for mp3 the output does not mute when you talk as it all goes through aux 1 on the dongle i think the hard wire might be a better option if you want the mute music facillity

 

[The Bede]

the problem i have just found if you use the zumo for mp3 the output does not mute when you talk as it all goes through aux 1 on the dongle i think the hard wire might be a better option if you want the mute music facillity

... You want the Mute for music and GPS waffle, Autocom Aux 2 ?

... You don't want the Mute for your phone, Autocom Aux 1 ?

... If the Zumo drives the phone via bluetooth and provides your music ... then perhaps it means all the audio is going into ...

...

... Back to PIA hardwiring phone to Autocom.
... Can the Zumo BT thingy still control the phone

... Somebody ought to know the clever solution to this ... help

...

... £38

 

[Thunder]

... You want the Mute for music and GPS waffle, Autocom Aux 2 ?

... You don't want the Mute for your phone, Autocom Aux 1 ?

... If the Zumo drives the phone via bluetooth and provides your music ... then perhaps it means all the audio is going into ...

...

... Back to PIA hardwiring phone to Autocom.
... Can the Zumo BT thingy still control the phone

... Somebody ought to know the clever solution to this ... help

...

... £38

I'm in the middle of sorting through this whole bluetooth dongle and zumo thing so I'll run through what I've found so far and see if it helps.

First off the BT dongle is not designed to handle music, the quality is poor (diabolical actually if you use in ear monitors) and in mono the idea is to use the BT dongle to handle the phone and the Zumo navigation instructions only, if you want to use the music facility of the Autocom you need to add an isolated lead (Autocom part no 1314) running from the Zumo to port 2 on the Autocom.

Now to get the price out of the way and let The Bede recover the lead is £28 so combined with a BT dongle your looking at £100 before you start.

Now it has to be said at this point that an isolated lead is essential as the Zumo is powered through the bikes and without it ypu get a nasty whine and loads of interference, a standard lead just won't work and believe me I've tried every version I have to avoid the cost of the 1314, if anyone knows a source for an isolated 3.5mm jack lead speak now cause I'm listening!

So how does the BT dongle, 1314 lead compare to part number 1299/1300 (depending on the model of Autocom) which is a completely wired solution? Well the only difference is you will have music in stereo rather than mono, but at a hefty financial cost and with a reduction in sound quality in navigation and phone conversations, the BT just can#t reproduce the quality of a hard wired setup.

IMPO 1299/1300 gives a better more cost effective solution if you want music from the Zumo complete with phone functionality.

Right let the slagging begin

 

[snoopy]

As much as I wanted the half price Kit 200 (the cheaper ones are mono only) I couldn't justify the Autocom being unable to let the Zumo handle the phone, meaning as Thunder said, another £100+ for the dongle.

All I need is a basic mixer to mix the Zumo and a PMR and a push switch would toggle the mic between Zumo and PMR.

 

[Jinxit]

A word of warning. If you are going to use part 1299 connected to aux 2 which is the recommended port then you will have to tell the person on the other end of the phone to count to 4 before they reply. This is because the autocom mutes the aux 2 when you speak. this lasts about 4 seconds. I spoke to autocom about this and the chap i spoke to said that this was a known issue and as a result of so many complaints they are going to discontinue the 1299 part. The best solution (and this is what i know use and it works well) is to connect the phone to the Zumo via bluetooth. Then connect the Zumo to the autocom via bluteooth in aux 1 for phone only. (this an option in the zumo bluetooth menu). Finally connect the Zumo to the autocom via the music lead to aux 2 for music and nav prompts.

To use an isolated lead or not? I have tried both. I got the whine from the standard lead so then brought an isolated one. This also produced the same whine. When i spoke to autocom they said that the lead had to be routed over the tank (1200) otherwise it would still pick up noise beside the engine.

Well i did this and whine all but gone. However i also tried the standard lead routed over the tank and it was as good.

 

[Thunder]

To use an isolated lead or not? I have tried both. I got the whine from the standard lead so then brought an isolated one. This also produced the same whine. When i spoke to autocom they said that the lead had to be routed over the tank (1200) otherwise it would still pick up noise beside the engine.

Well i did this and whine all but gone. However i also tried the standard lead routed over the tank and it was as good.

Thanks for that, I'll go have a fiddle later

 

[ciderman gs]

i think that is what i meant

 

[The Bede]

... Isolated lead, OK so this anti ground-loop exhorbitance is required for bike powered Autocom and Zumo.

... If all devices are powered from a common Centech fuse panel, instead of separate aux-sockets, am I right in thinking the ground-loop issue disappears?


... Mute point ... can you just manually turn the volume down on the music if you answer a call and put all the Zumo stuff thru' Autocom Aux 1?


... Don't like the sound of BT dongle nonsense for Aux 1. I might look at hard-wiring the phone audio (I may put in a charger socket anyway) and using just the Zumo phone GUI via BT (perhaps it is possible to set the phone audio volumes to zero at the Zumo.)

... She'll be right