Be honest, is this a 10 grand bike?

Reprobate said:
Which is why I bought the 1998 R1100GS and not 2000 R1150GS - apart from the difference in cost, I studied sites like micapeak and found that they had pretty much ironed out any flaws by 1997. And the added crap on the 1150 - servo brakes for example - wasn't worth the extra money.
Even if I could afford it, I wouldn't have bought the 1200, simply because I don't want to be a test rider for BMW.

A 2000 1150 with servo brakes ????
 
evolution not revolution - worth every penny - better smoother transmission - better electrics - better suspension - better lights - the list goes on and on and on
 
airhead

all you need is a proper GS//////////////////////// any airhead will do.
Buy a Pan for raod use they are better ....phew thats a risky statement
Dood'
oh and if you want to go fast you need a VFR.well or a 1300 Pan .heee hee i have both and a proper GS` of course
Dood'
 
all you need is a GS period!!!!!!! air or oil. 1000,1100,1150 or 1200 pans are for cookin.
the big GS unburstable-unbeatable
 
I have owned an R1200 for 3 months and covered 6,000 miles.
Today I have ordered a new R1150GS Adventure with standard shocks to lower the ride. It will also have a Y piece, chip and Remus. Just as my last 1150GS.
The 1200 might be technically advanced but it just does not have the presence or attitude. My new GS adventure will be as powerfull as the 1200 but with more growl.
I had withdrawl feelings parting with my 1150 GS.
 
Interesting thing this question of presence. My gut reaction is that those who feel the 1200 does not have the presence are quite right especially when parked up.

But I've found when filtering (always a good test) that the traffic parts in just the same way as it did for my 1150 (and no other bike).

Also a few times recently, especially when I have been in the tin can, I've thought "Oh look a GS" and it needed a proper look to distinguish an 1150 from a 1200.

At least they are clearly from the same family. :)

Paul
 
Why are we apparently so forgiving?

Well first off. I’m @ 23,500 and no issues other than my windscreen snapping a support after an avian impact incident.

Why are we apparently so forgiving? Because. If you want perfection in this world you're in for a huge disappointment. Because. If you take everything that is posted on the Internet as gospel then you are in for some serious nightmares. Because. Sometimes we aren’t getting the entire story. Because. People will complain about stuff that would not be of any real consequence if the Internet didn’t exist. Because. It’s easier to whine about an issue of inconsequence than it is to applaud the item. Because. It is impossible to make everyone happy. Because. Some people will expect perfection in a product they paid a few extra bucks for, yet will willing accept the imperfections offered from the number one motorcycle company in the world because it is cheaper. Because. BMW has the best warranty out there. They offer a 3-year, unlimited mileage, with roadside assistance warranty. How many car companies offer that? Why doesn’t any other major motorcycle manufacturers offer a similar package when the money works out the same. As someone said earlier, for every owner that complains about something of consequence or something that just annoys them, there are literally hundreds of owners that have nothing but good things to say. So a few side stands have snapped. BFD. That’s why there is a warranty and more to the point the best warranty out there. That shows me that BMW does stand behind its product.

I’ve been a GS fan since seeing my first 80 and 100GS back in the early 90’s. I’ve kept up on each model change. Every model has had its issues and each subsequent model has run into this sort of debate. Which is better and why. Part of the issue is that BMW doesn’t really do a huge leap in tech, power and performance. That fuels the debate for those that already own one and aren’t willing to lose the trade-in value on a marginally, better model. The second part of it is that they allow the models to last for more than the traditional 2-year window that the Japanese follow. This allows for fierce loyalty to develop over the years as updates and issues are dealt with in each subsequent model. Is it worth it? Only an owner can say. If it isn't worth it then people will sell it, and have, and move on to what they feel is value for dollar. For me, it the best deal I've ever had on a motorcycle, and I paid full price.
 
Bravo! I love mine to bits. I've had 26 new bikes and the 1200 is the best by miles. It's comfortable, handles like a dream, looks great and so far has been faultlessly reliable. A bike, as with everything else, is worth what the consumer is willing to pay for it and I reckon I got what I paid for.
 


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