glennwat
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go to balderstons site and look under GPS
BMW Navigator III specsheet (?)
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Andy Davies said:
Enhanced 2720.
Paul
PhilM
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glennwat said:
Thanks for the tip glennwat, this is exactly what I got from the dealer yesterday
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/balderston/Navigator.htm
glennwat
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what difference what model it is.Its £995 and I have a nav II, also £995, which don't work with my system V WCS 1 and is only 11 months old and BMW say tough! I am not a happy bunny. 
JDH
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So, it's a revised 2720, what then does the 2820 have to offer over the Nav111 I wonder?
JDH
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kiwiAdventure
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I can not understand why any one would get a blue-tooth helmet. I would not like a transmitter right by my head. Who knows what damage this will do. 
Mick_rw
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Am glad....
Cheers
Mick
you mentioned that, I have a Nokia N70 and am not able to read the contacts, so will try moving them to SIM and see what happens....silvermog said:
Cheers
Mick
Mick_rw
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I think...
the only difference, that I can see, seems to be the MP3 player in the 2820.....JDH said:
Mick_rw
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Oh well....
so much for that idea......Mick_rw said:you mentioned that, I have a Nokia N70 and am not able to read the contacts, so will try moving them to SIM and see what happens....
Cheers
Mick
glennwat said:what difference what model it is.Its £995 and I have a nav II, also £995, which don't work with my system V WCS 1 and is only 11 months old and BMW say tough! I am not a happy bunny.
So is the BMW Nav 3 / 2820 available in the uk yet?????
If so how much and how do we know if it is £995?????
I know Pan European has one don't know how, but i'd like to find out see if i can do what he's doing.
glennwat
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It is available sometime this month i am told. And I hate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mick_rw
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right...
the 2820 is due for release in June, price not known, the Nav III is on the verge of being available, cost excluding VAT is £846.81....the price I know from purchasing one.Mollers01uk said:
silvermog
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Mick_rw said:
The Nav III has been available in the UK since last week at least ... mine arrived at SPC on Tuesday last week, it didn't get fitted until Friday due to work commitments, but I rode all round Wales over the weekend with it.
I used the GPS on Tarka's ride-out on Saturday and as I commented earlier, the 10000 trackpoints were sufficient to record my riding down to Wales via the M4, Saturdays ride to LLangollen, the rideout, return journey, Sundays 400+ miles and most of the return journey back up the M4, pretty impressive!
I ordered mine at the same time as the bike, so I guess I just got into the front of the queue ...
BTW, contrary to some discussions in this thread ... the Nav III is a re-badged 2820 ... *not* a 2720 ... looks like Garmin are prototyping the production with the Nav III. Enclosure is same/similar, but the guts are 2820, ie. more memory, bigger screen, new software, bluetooth, etc
HTH
Mick_rw
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Don't think it is, as 2820 has the ability to play MP3 where as the Nav III doesn't..unless I have been sold a duff one...but no mention on the blurb of MP3 in the Nav III....silvermog said:
I understand that when you plug the 2820 into your PC you get the option to use it as a storage device or as a GPS..... Question have you been able to load your mobile contacts into your Nav III, I have a Nokia N70 and can't seem to see the contacts??
silvermog said:
What dealer did you buy it from and have they got a website??
silvermog
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OK, SPC supplied the unit ...
As for MP3 playback ... I've got my iPod hooked up thru my Starcom1, so not had any incentive to try MP3 thru the GPS ... I'm a Mac user, so I've not bothered to with the device on Windows too much, other than to do the obvious with MapSource.
If I get sometime this weekend I'll do some experimenting, thats as long as the sun isn't out ;-)
As to whether it can playback and if that makes it 2820 or not, I'm more inclined to thing that the guts are the same with BMW opting to have MP3 playback crippled in their version firmware than otherwise. Its easier to disable features you don't want than to engineer a feature as complicated as BT into an existing device (ie. 2720) ... that and the obvious enhancements to satellite acquisition time and processing time, lead me to believe this is basically a 2820 chassis with mods.
I'm not trying to suggest that anyone wanting a 2820 rush out and buy the BMW, just that I currently believe its the 2820 in drag rather than a 2720, the feature set is too similar ...
I've been playing with the contacts feature and in pairing with my phone (a Treo650) it seems to ignore the names in both the memory and the SIM, but if a name from either is defined as a speed-dial entry it picks those up. Now this may be a peculiarity of the Treo (as its not a directly referenced phone in the list on the Nav III), but its consistent. So I've set about defining my top 20-30 phone numbers in my unused speed-dial slots (thankfully the Treo has about 50, most of them hidden from view during normal operation), just so they appear on the Nav III when out and about on the bike. The rest of the numbers I can deal with directly ...
As for MP3 playback ... I've got my iPod hooked up thru my Starcom1, so not had any incentive to try MP3 thru the GPS ... I'm a Mac user, so I've not bothered to with the device on Windows too much, other than to do the obvious with MapSource.
If I get sometime this weekend I'll do some experimenting, thats as long as the sun isn't out ;-)
As to whether it can playback and if that makes it 2820 or not, I'm more inclined to thing that the guts are the same with BMW opting to have MP3 playback crippled in their version firmware than otherwise. Its easier to disable features you don't want than to engineer a feature as complicated as BT into an existing device (ie. 2720) ... that and the obvious enhancements to satellite acquisition time and processing time, lead me to believe this is basically a 2820 chassis with mods.
I'm not trying to suggest that anyone wanting a 2820 rush out and buy the BMW, just that I currently believe its the 2820 in drag rather than a 2720, the feature set is too similar ...
I've been playing with the contacts feature and in pairing with my phone (a Treo650) it seems to ignore the names in both the memory and the SIM, but if a name from either is defined as a speed-dial entry it picks those up. Now this may be a peculiarity of the Treo (as its not a directly referenced phone in the list on the Nav III), but its consistent. So I've set about defining my top 20-30 phone numbers in my unused speed-dial slots (thankfully the Treo has about 50, most of them hidden from view during normal operation), just so they appear on the Nav III when out and about on the bike. The rest of the numbers I can deal with directly ...
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PanEuropean
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Has BMW announced this thing yet? I've been using one for the last 8 weeks, as soon as it is officially (official = BMW website) announced, I can tell you all about it.
Michael
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Michael,
I think it is out. Talking to dealers they are not talking about it not being available.
As Phil says in this thread Balderstones have it on their website
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/balderston/Navigator.htm
If you don't want to say too much, could you tell me it is worth upgrading from Nav2 to Nav3. Having to persuade the other half that it is well worth the investment and your judgement will go a long way along that route
I think it is out. Talking to dealers they are not talking about it not being available.
As Phil says in this thread Balderstones have it on their website
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/balderston/Navigator.htm
If you don't want to say too much, could you tell me it is worth upgrading from Nav2 to Nav3. Having to persuade the other half that it is well worth the investment and your judgement will go a long way along that route
silvermog
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Its announced ... BMW manuals and specs are available via flyer (no PDF copies yet), but you can download the manual from the Garmin site, I picked it up yesterday, just to see if its any better than the one I got with the unit ... its the same.
BMW site now contains the latest MapSource with ref to Nav I, II, III suitability.
Mine's a production unit, initially ordered back in October as part of a GSA purchase. The order was confirmed by BMW as a Nav III at that time and re-confirmed in early Jan. Delivery last week, approx. 2 weeks after I took delivery of the bike.
HTH
BMW site now contains the latest MapSource with ref to Nav I, II, III suitability.
Mine's a production unit, initially ordered back in October as part of a GSA purchase. The order was confirmed by BMW as a Nav III at that time and re-confirmed in early Jan. Delivery last week, approx. 2 weeks after I took delivery of the bike.
HTH
PanEuropean
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HTH:
OK, thanks for that link to the manual on the Garmin website... that's enough of a public announcement for me.
Here's the review:
1) I have been using this thing for the past 8 weeks, side by side with the 2820. One day I would use the 2820, the next day, the Nav III.
2) The two GPSRs are identical in every respect, exception the following: The BMW Nav III has a black case, not a gray one, and it does not have a MP3 player in it, nor does it have audio in or audio out plugs on the left side of it.
3) The BMW Nav III comes with a mounting bracket that has 4 buttons on it (same concept as the Nav II), and some additional hardware that is somewhat specific to BMW motorcycles. It also has one additional screen that shows a compass with a RMI needle, same as the BMW Nav II and II+ has.
For information about the functionality of the BMW Nav III, see the review that I wrote about the Garmin SP 2820 at this link: Garmin announces the 2820 GPS for motorcycles, and disregard the references to the MP3 player and the audio in-out plugs. In fact - the truth is, most of the photos in that review of the 2820 are actually photos of the BMW Nav III - just have a look at the black frame around the screen.
Michael
BMW Motorcycle Navigator III
BMW Specific Screen
OK, thanks for that link to the manual on the Garmin website... that's enough of a public announcement for me.
Here's the review:
1) I have been using this thing for the past 8 weeks, side by side with the 2820. One day I would use the 2820, the next day, the Nav III.
2) The two GPSRs are identical in every respect, exception the following: The BMW Nav III has a black case, not a gray one, and it does not have a MP3 player in it, nor does it have audio in or audio out plugs on the left side of it.
3) The BMW Nav III comes with a mounting bracket that has 4 buttons on it (same concept as the Nav II), and some additional hardware that is somewhat specific to BMW motorcycles. It also has one additional screen that shows a compass with a RMI needle, same as the BMW Nav II and II+ has.
For information about the functionality of the BMW Nav III, see the review that I wrote about the Garmin SP 2820 at this link: Garmin announces the 2820 GPS for motorcycles, and disregard the references to the MP3 player and the audio in-out plugs. In fact - the truth is, most of the photos in that review of the 2820 are actually photos of the BMW Nav III - just have a look at the black frame around the screen.
Michael
BMW Motorcycle Navigator III
BMW Specific Screen
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