what price do you put on learning
What 'value' do you put on learning?
Put the time in, not the money
bmw off road school - worth it?
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What 'value' do you put on learning?
Put the time in, not the money
What 'value' do you put on learning?
Put the time in, not the money
(I know where yer coming from Tim, but playing devils advocate ....) If you teach yerself (or get taught) a bad habit and then, constantly compound and practice that bad habit, you'll do yerself no favours at all.
(I know where yer coming from Tim, but playing devils advocate ....) If you teach yerself (or get taught) a bad habit and then, constantly compound and practice that bad habit, you'll do yerself no favours at all.
The question was: Is £600 a tad expensive for effectively 2 days tuition?
I'd agree with you if intent on becoming a virtuoso violinist
I've taken people on offroad trips to Morocco who've only completed the BMW course and I've taken those who simply regularly trail ride, there's a world of difference
Having said that, there's folk out there without a clue and plenty of money, in which case they'll definately learn something as the tuition would be top notch
Fair one! Some people are natural riders, and if you're lucky enough to be one of those just getting out and practicing is one of the best thing you can do.
I have a soft spot for 'sponges', people who have a good attitude that is this mix of humbleness and a desire to learn and constantly improve. I have a lot of time for people like that, and it frustrates me that some people spend thousands of pounds on carbon this and end can that, think that any form of further training is beyond them ... and they're still sh1t riders.
Good for Ange by the way in Spain. Its stories like that, that touch my soft spot
(oooo errrrrr).
I have a soft spot for 'sponges', people who have a good attitude that is this mix of humbleness and a desire to learn and constantly improve. I have a lot of time for people like that, and it frustrates me that some people spend thousands of pounds on carbon this and end can that, think that any form of further training is beyond them ... and they're still sh1t riders.
Good for Ange by the way in Spain. Its stories like that, that touch my soft spot
(oooo errrrrr).
Surrey Yeoman
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Fair enough Tom.
Agreed, I was lucky enough not to break anything.
But........
........before signing up for the course I would hope that you realised that your would be training in a "live" enviroment, "off-road" on forest tracks and trails. It's got to be accepted that there is always a possiblity that you're going to get something wrong
and break yourself.
By the very nature of the course being "off-road", it follows that there will be times when you will be out of reach of conventional ambulances (and bearing in mind where an off-road bike can get to, also out of the reach of 4x4 vehicle based ambulances).
That's surely a risk you have to have accepted in your own mind when you decided to go on the course?
And if you do hurt yourself in rough country, there's going to have to be a degree of "grin and bear it" with regards to pain while being extracted.
As for a 5hr wait at A&E, well, welcome to the NHS! That can't be blamed on the people at ORS surely?!
Yes, again I accept that I was fortunate not to hurt myself, but all I can do is reiterate that the first aid I saw was as good as any I've seen in my 30-odd years military and police service and the air casevac was quicker than many I've seen.
Anyway, Hope you're all mended now and fighting fit!
Keep it between the ditches!
Yeoman
Agreed, I was lucky enough not to break anything.
But........
........before signing up for the course I would hope that you realised that your would be training in a "live" enviroment, "off-road" on forest tracks and trails. It's got to be accepted that there is always a possiblity that you're going to get something wrong
and break yourself.By the very nature of the course being "off-road", it follows that there will be times when you will be out of reach of conventional ambulances (and bearing in mind where an off-road bike can get to, also out of the reach of 4x4 vehicle based ambulances).
That's surely a risk you have to have accepted in your own mind when you decided to go on the course?
And if you do hurt yourself in rough country, there's going to have to be a degree of "grin and bear it" with regards to pain while being extracted.
As for a 5hr wait at A&E, well, welcome to the NHS! That can't be blamed on the people at ORS surely?!
Yes, again I accept that I was fortunate not to hurt myself, but all I can do is reiterate that the first aid I saw was as good as any I've seen in my 30-odd years military and police service and the air casevac was quicker than many I've seen.
Anyway, Hope you're all mended now and fighting fit!
Keep it between the ditches!
Yeoman
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