BT and bittorrent

[shugie]

I have a sneaking suspicion that BTinternet, or BT yahoo or whatever they call themselves today, have taken to disconnecting my ADSL line when I download some bittorrent and someone starts uploading from me.

Guess they have a downer on filesharing then.

Shug

 

[cookie]

as you said in the other thread:

"bt are pants in so many ways"

 

[Fanum]

Complain to them......you're only sharing video clips of you playing cards and your own home made music after all.........the fact that the files are called 'big betty swallows' and 'naughty nuns 3' is beside the point!

 

[Clive]

I don't know how they could tell what you are uploading ?

I presume you have restricted the upload speed to a workable maximum for your bandwidth ?

 

[Pondboy]

Clive,

I was having ADSL lock up/drop out ptoblems with Virgin Net. Over the last few months they got more regular (every other day), so I moved to Zen.
Since then we haven't had a problem even with all three PC's hammering the bandwidth simultaneously. Makes me think it was a contention problem (too many users for the allocated bandwidth). Zen were cheaper too. PB

 

[shugie]

I don't know how they could tell what you are uploading ?

they can't tell what I am uploading. They can tell which port I am using to do it. I am reluctant to do much experimenting as BT are very quick to chop an account they think is being abused. Rsoles

Shug

 

[bigkuri]

Try Bulldog internet and get rid of BT. Bulldog are great - and usually twice as much bandwidth for the same cost as BT. They don't care about a bit of line abuse either.

Besides from that - on your exchange there could be other adsl users who really hammer the up/download. I think that BT just look at "exchange usage" - would be amazed if they looked at individual usage?

 

[cookie]

they can't tell what I am uploading.

Shug

i thought they could.

anyone downloading the same torrent could see your IP on their bt client.

 

[mikeh501]

i thought they could.

anyone downloading the same torrent could see your IP on their bt client.

Could and would are prolly very different.

They would first need to 'sniff' what traffic is coming/going from your IP with a protocol analyser and then determine what was causing it. Then they would have to examine the data in order to find what torrents were being seeded/leeched. Not an easy one IMO.

What ISP's generally do is look at well known ports and measure the traffic. They can then say generally that you have been downloading/uploading stuff from kazaa or other p2p apps.

BT is different because every client can use a different port, its the tracker that glues it all together.

 

[cookie]

no worries with the RIAA or BPI then?

 

[shugie]

the way bittorrent works trying to make sense of exactly what I was downloading would be an absolute swine of a task, even if you captured every packet!

and BT turn my ADSL line off within a few minutes of someone starting to download from me, so I am inclined to believe that they are doing it on the basis of the port(s) that are used.

Don't you wish they would exert as much effort anf ingenuity in fixing problems as they seem to be in 'content-filtering'. No doubt in due course we will learn the real reason behind this effort. Perhaps BT intend to join the billable download business.

Shug

 

[mikeh501]

the way bittorrent works trying to make sense of exactly what I was downloading would be an absolute swine of a task, even if you captured every packet!

and BT turn my ADSL line off within a few minutes of someone starting to download from me, so I am inclined to believe that they are doing it on the basis of the port(s) that are used.

Don't you wish they would exert as much effort anf ingenuity in fixing problems as they seem to be in 'content-filtering'. No doubt in due course we will learn the real reason behind this effort. Perhaps BT intend to join the billable download business.

Shug

Have you tried changing the port number in your BT client?

It can be anything. Dont use the well known ones, try ones in the range 10000-50000.

no worries with the RIAA or BPI then?

Wouldn't worry too much just yet, but I'm sure the stewards over here will catch on soon. I give it another 12-18 months before we see prosecutions en masse over here.

Also, try this
peer guardian. It has a list of IP's which known agencies (ala RIAA) and music companies own. It then stops these Ip's from connecting to your PC. The only prob is that its only as good as the list.

 

[cookie]

i did look at peer guardian, looks to cause as much grief as it solves.