Buyers Remorse?

[The Grey One]

if you're ready to retire - you'll be around or older than 60.

why the feck do you need such a big and powerful bike ?

Cheeky Git! Us old folk can still like power you know, I will be 64 at the end of the week. In my head I am still young an foolish, it's just that others see me as old and foolish. Very few people NEED a big powerful bike but that does not stop us wanting one. If I could afford it I would be in the market for something much more powerful than my 1150. There may come a time when something smaller and less powerful will be needed but not yet.

John

 

[Rasher]

if i had 7 or 8k and wanted a big adventure style bike the S10 WOULD be top of my list.but i would have to do something to get more top end power out of it ,if only for that poorly judged overtake we all do from time to time.
on the bm you would drop a gear and all would be good.on the S10 dropping a gear wouldnt make any difference as all the torque would be gone

Enough top end for ya? Flash + Arrow headers Vs stock:



Just with the extra mid-range you never need to drop a gear anymore, more power than stock 1500rpm earlier

 

[E. Buygum]

Over 60 and love my "big, powerful" S10. Also loved my first GS but my second was painfully unreliable (experience, not paranoia). Aside from that, things I really don't miss from the GS: CANBUS, Torx, the beak, ESA, standard headlight, standard seat. Things I miss: err... nothing actually. I find the S10 easy to ride, comfortable and unproblematical. I get slightly better mpg (I know not everyone seems to) on the S10 and 200 mile range is attainable (23l tank), which I never managed on the GS (again, I am aware many do): I don't need any more. It's heavier but doesn't feel it. The standard seat is comfortable enough and the reasonably priced MRA screen (came with the bike) is excellent. Lights are fine.

I'm grateful that the GS came into my life. I love a torquey twin and am not bothered about mad straight line acceleration and a screaming engine. The real revelation was simple: I have long legs and a smashed knee and the Adventure style bike and riding position is brilliant for me...I'm not bothered about looking as if I am about to set off on a round the world trip: the S10 is pleasingly ordinary. Oh, by he way, gearchange is smooth and neutral is easy to find despite the wet clutch

I'd say I am an enthusiastic rider of motorbikes (commuting, touring, going to the shops) rather than a motorcycle enthusiast...I have never fully understood "character" or "presence" nor appreciate "quirkiness". I have no interest in being able to strip an engine at the side of the road although I greatly admire those who can. Reliability, simplicity and predictability are paramount for me but everyone has their own particular priorities.

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

read my post again

need doesn,t mean want.

i can guarentee i would be overtaking you on a 250 while you dodder around feeling smug on your litre plus big bikes that are bought for no other reason than a need to spend money.
We,ve all seen them , old blokes on the motorways, plodding along saving fuel at 70 mph on an 1/8 throttle....

waste of time.

 

[red1]

read my post again

need doesn,t mean want.

i can guarentee i would be overtaking you on a 250 while you dodder around feeling smug on your litre plus big bikes that are bought for no other reason than a need to spend money.
We,ve all seen them , old blokes on the motorways, plodding along saving fuel at 70 mph on an 1/8 throttle....

waste of time.

You have know idea of how I use a bike. Where I go in this country. How many miles I do in Europe. If I ride solo or with a pillion. How much gear I take with me, or anything else. Much less about my riding style or my skill level.
So unless you have anything of relevance to say in response to the OP I suggest you keep your comments to subjects where you obviously have more knowledge, as listed below.

1. I would have been BSB champion but couldn't get time off work.
2. Rossi would have won on the Ducati but didn't listen to me.
3. How to alienate 50% of forum members by calling them old dodders who you could pass on a 250.
4. How to open your mouth when already talking out of your arse.

 

[Davy F]

Kaister...........

1. I would have been BSB champion but couldn't get time off work.
2. Rossi would have won on the Ducati but didn't listen to me.
3. How to alienate 50% of forum members by calling them old dodders who you could pass on a 250.
4. How to open your mouth when already talking out of your arse.

Owned................

Can I also add.........

 

[Dezidero]

So unless you have anything of relevance to say in response to the OP I suggest you keep your comments to subjects where you obviously have more knowledge, as listed below.

1. I would have been BSB champion but couldn't get time off work.
2. Rossi would have won on the Ducati but didn't listen to me.
3. How to alienate 50% of forum members by calling them old dodders who you could pass on a 250.
4. How to open your mouth when already talking out of your arse.

CLASSIC ! Red ....

 

[red1]

CLASSIC ! Red ....

Thank you Dezidero and Davy F, typical young shit with day glow leathers and knee sliders filed down in the garage to look "hard". There are "mature" riders on here that would wipe the floor with these loud mouths on a track day. Should just keep their bigoted opinions to themselves.

 

[Bryn]

Kaister. "Young shit"

 

[Rasher]

You have know idea of how I use a bike.

Can I have a guess....

Where I go in this country.

Wherever the f**k you want?

How many miles I do in Europe.

As many as you can fit in?

If I ride solo or with a pillion

Depends if any "birds" will risk getting on the back of an unstable vehicle being ridden by someone who may be blind / a sarnie short of a picnic

How much gear I take with me

Easy, as much as you can cram onto the bike, a pannier is just like a bin, it does not matter how big it is, it is always crammed full.


How did I do?


Must admit I really wanted to like the Crosstourer and delayed my new bike decision for it to become available, and then did not really gel with it, nothing wrong with the bike, but it just did nothing for me, heart said Guzzi, head said Yamaha - although the Twin Cam GS was a damn nice bike to ride and was by far my favourite at fast road work as it "felt" sporty with a bit of a top end rush.

Even with the mods my S10 still feels a shade flat up top due to the low redline and huge midrange, if anyone wants a bike with a top end rush then this probably is not it, but if instant stomp is your thing it makes more sense, hoping to find a 2014 demo near me sometime to see how it compares as I think Yamaha have reworked the mapping to give a more exciting feel to the delivery.

I also think they get better with miles, when I bought mine I was reading owners saying how they were noticeably better with 10k+ on the clock, I thought this was bollox, but reckon mine has got a bit smoother and feels a bit more free up top now it is beyond 10k.

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

Thank you Dezidero and Davy F, typical young shit with day glow leathers and knee sliders filed down in the garage to look "hard". There are "mature" riders on here that would wipe the floor with these loud mouths on a track day. Should just keep their bigoted opinions to themselves.

.

 

[Loudpedal]

Hi Red

Are you thinking of buying new of second hand?
Some very good bargains to be had on new or pre reg 2013 bikes.

My 2013 S10 went in for it's first service and the recall headlight wiring loom today.
They (Hursts Yamaha Belfast) gave me a new 2014 demo bike for the day.

It also was the first day I've been on a bike this year with totally dry roads.
I was able to use nearly all of the tyre, (then a guy on a 250 came up the inside of me and took my line)

There is a very noticeable difference in the power delivery of the 2014 bike over my 500 mile 2013 reg bike.
Much stronger and smoother pull right from the get go.
Forget all the electronic gismos. The two bikes ride the same
ESA, Cruise control, and the rest. Who actually uses this after the first few plays

Buy a 2013 bike from £10,000 and spend some money to make the bike your own. Then flash the ecu.

You will not be dissapointed.


Loudpedal

 

[red1]

It also was the first day I've been on a bike this year with totally dry roads.
I was able to use nearly all of the tyre, (then a guy on a 250 came up the inside of me and took my line)

Loudpedal

That'll be that Kaister!
Passes me regular around the outside on his mountain bike!

There are a lot of good deals around. £10k gets a new bike but there are some very low mileage bikes with decent extras from £8k, so I'll take my time getting a used one.

Sent from my MOTO G

 

[red1]

Mate has just thrown a funny shaped spanner in the works and told me not to buy anything until I test ride a Versys 1000???

Sent from my MOTO G

 

[Rasher]

Mate has just thrown a funny shaped spanner in the works and told me not to buy anything until I test ride a Versys 1000???

It is a sportsbike on stilts, and a very good one from what many people have told me, but not really a comparison with the S10.

Fast comfy and relatively cheap super comfy sports tourer in my book, more like a "poor mans" (or shrewd mans?) Explorer / Crossrunner.

 

[Steptoe]

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I bet being called a young shit made your day

 

[stevemersey]

Mate has just thrown a funny shaped spanner in the works and told me not to buy anything until I test ride a Versys 1000???

I know this is an old thread but the Versys 1000 has caught my eye too. I was out riding on my GS with the Versys forum crowd at the weekend ( I have a 650 in the garage and it is a cracking bike) and there were a few V1000, and boy do they go well. The owners report very few problems compared to Explorer and GS. They are surprisingly agile on the gnarly back roads too. As I am getting a bit fed up with the high "biodegradable" content of my GS, the V1000 is now no 1 on my list of options. It took quite a while for the odd looking 650 to build a reputation, I think the V1000 is a slow burner too.

 

[red1]

I had a ride on a demo V1000 and it was ok but nothing that stirred the loins to want one. After so long on twins the buzz of a 4cyl inline just doesn't do it for me.

Still haven't found a demo S10!

 

[Packer]

S10's are good bikes though they have been known to blow the odd fork seal ( isn't that right Kev )

Didn't see this at the time. The leaking seal was down to the fact that I'd bent both fork sliders when I hit the deer in January

I looked at the Honda Crosstourer, too heavy, too complex, too thirsty, too small a tank.

I looked at the Triumph, felt top heavy with too much expanse of vulnerable plastic.

My 1150 never let me down in 96,000 miles although it did have issues with the final drive, repaired at 26,000; 61,000; full rebuild at ~70,000.

No regret buying the Yam S10. Once I have 3,000+ miles on it I'll get the ECU flashed and fine tuned at Hilltop or similar at which point it will be the bike that Yam should have produced. My only concern is that the 1st to 3rd restrictions may have been put in to protect the transmission, I don't want to reduce the Yam tranny to a BMW level of FD unreliability.

Averaging 51mpg as well at the moment.

 

[Tobers]

My S10 still hasn't gone wrong. Also I squeezed 240 miles out of a tank one day following one of those "I don't need to fill up yet as I pass that isolated petrol station in Scotland" moments.