Frank Warner
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Sighted one of those R1200 GS Cast Wheel - broken at Innaminka, Australia.
Cast wheels - broken
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Mick Fagan
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He was going like a cut cat and hit something and it flattened the wheel rim a bit on the way to Innamincka.
Then he rode out to the dig tree on the Sunday (I think) and was travelling around 170 Kliks and had the front tyre give way on the sidewall with a small rip. The tyre was repaired and he rode back home to Queensland but at this stage I don't know whether he put a tube in, or ran tubeless.
What is more interesting, is that he's on his second bevel drive, apparently this one is starting to come loose as well!
Mick.
Then he rode out to the dig tree on the Sunday (I think) and was travelling around 170 Kliks and had the front tyre give way on the sidewall with a small rip. The tyre was repaired and he rode back home to Queensland but at this stage I don't know whether he put a tube in, or ran tubeless.
What is more interesting, is that he's on his second bevel drive, apparently this one is starting to come loose as well!
Mick.
Mick Fagan
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Another interesting bit on the 1200 GS bike is that a friend fell off in sand a couple of times and the servo brakes and ABS packed up.
She got to Mildura and decided that Adelaide was closer so took it there where they diagnosed sand in the handlebar sensor (ABS or Brake?).
After a clean it's right as new.
I'd be looking for where this sensor is so I can check it out on the road, so to speak.
Mick.
She got to Mildura and decided that Adelaide was closer so took it there where they diagnosed sand in the handlebar sensor (ABS or Brake?).
After a clean it's right as new.
I'd be looking for where this sensor is so I can check it out on the road, so to speak.
Mick.
Emoto
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Mick Fagan said:
As will we all! Mick, if you happen to find it, could you please post some info here?
Thanks!!!
Mick Fagan
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I don't have a 1200, I have an 1100, so I wouldn't know where to start.
I just posted this information on as I think it's an interesting piece of stuff that could come in handy if you or anyone else that has a 1200 falls off in sand. I know that you'll remember this piece of information when you do!
Mick.
I just posted this information on as I think it's an interesting piece of stuff that could come in handy if you or anyone else that has a 1200 falls off in sand. I know that you'll remember this piece of information when you do!
Mick.
beemerbird
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Yes, Mick, it was fixed in a matter of minutes. The sand (from when I dropped it) apparently got into the lever joint, and was blocking the lever from fully returning to its true position, thus the diags kept thinking there was a problem, so wouldn't set up the ABS. Also, I was then unable to manually turn off the ABS - it was just a flashing "brake failure" light all the time. Very disconcerting!
Altho, I must admit, the ABS DID come back occasionally, of its own accord, quite often after riding 150km from start up! Sometimes, when I got up to 120kph it would come back, too, but never with any consistency.
It was rather scary - riding about 1500km (about 540km of dirt) virtually without brakes!! Didn't want to chance my luck any further, so called BMW Assist when I got to the outskirts of Adelaide, and had a tilt-tray tow-truck come out to pick me up. Rode up the tilt tray, braked, and immediately slid rapidly all the way back to the ground, as there was no braking whatsoever!!!! Luckily, the truck driver (biker) managed to grab it as I went past him, and stopped it before I hit the brand new car immediately behind me! Too close for comfort, methinks!
But it was a great trip to Innamincka, about 1000km of dirt (my first effort), huge fun and a great learning experience. I'm rapt in the 1200, both for highway touring and on the dirt. Interestingly, I dropped it 5 times in the sand, and the panniers didn't even look like breaking off, as several others have done here in Oz.
Margaret
Altho, I must admit, the ABS DID come back occasionally, of its own accord, quite often after riding 150km from start up! Sometimes, when I got up to 120kph it would come back, too, but never with any consistency.
It was rather scary - riding about 1500km (about 540km of dirt) virtually without brakes!! Didn't want to chance my luck any further, so called BMW Assist when I got to the outskirts of Adelaide, and had a tilt-tray tow-truck come out to pick me up. Rode up the tilt tray, braked, and immediately slid rapidly all the way back to the ground, as there was no braking whatsoever!!!! Luckily, the truck driver (biker) managed to grab it as I went past him, and stopped it before I hit the brand new car immediately behind me! Too close for comfort, methinks!
But it was a great trip to Innamincka, about 1000km of dirt (my first effort), huge fun and a great learning experience. I'm rapt in the 1200, both for highway touring and on the dirt. Interestingly, I dropped it 5 times in the sand, and the panniers didn't even look like breaking off, as several others have done here in Oz.
Margaret
Mick Fagan
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Margaret, either the sand was made up of extremely large grains, or, the sensor is extremely sensitive!
Neville is a gentleman, he only mentioned to me that he thought you had dropped your bike in sand a couple of times, if that.
We had lunch at the hot bore on the way south, cleaned the grit out of the helmet mechanisms in the lovely hot water then re-lubed them with vaseline.
After lunch we took the Mt Hopeless track to Arkaroola. Very nice country and the track was also quite good. Hit some stony country and coming into a creek I bent the Touratech centre stand guard, it now sports two gouges, one of which bent it a bit, I'm pretty certain it would have cought the centre stand cross brace which could have been nasty.
Phil on the 90S had a little cherished moment when the front wheel drifted about ½ the track width on a clay base covered lightly with coarse sand, luckily I was behind him so I could slow down and have a laugh.
Trevor on the R100S had his steering head bearings vibrate almost completely apart. We attacked them with a hammer and cold chisel as he broke his C spanner trying to tighten them with a hammer.
The rear TKC 80 tyre is about 75% worn after 4,500 Klm's heavily loaded and two up. It's also quite cut with numerous deepish cuts to the tread from the constant rocky outcrops. We did about 1,600 Klm's of dirt all told finishing up with a last session in Big Desert in Vic.
Mick.
Neville is a gentleman, he only mentioned to me that he thought you had dropped your bike in sand a couple of times, if that.
We had lunch at the hot bore on the way south, cleaned the grit out of the helmet mechanisms in the lovely hot water then re-lubed them with vaseline.
After lunch we took the Mt Hopeless track to Arkaroola. Very nice country and the track was also quite good. Hit some stony country and coming into a creek I bent the Touratech centre stand guard, it now sports two gouges, one of which bent it a bit, I'm pretty certain it would have cought the centre stand cross brace which could have been nasty.
Phil on the 90S had a little cherished moment when the front wheel drifted about ½ the track width on a clay base covered lightly with coarse sand, luckily I was behind him so I could slow down and have a laugh.
Trevor on the R100S had his steering head bearings vibrate almost completely apart. We attacked them with a hammer and cold chisel as he broke his C spanner trying to tighten them with a hammer.
The rear TKC 80 tyre is about 75% worn after 4,500 Klm's heavily loaded and two up. It's also quite cut with numerous deepish cuts to the tread from the constant rocky outcrops. We did about 1,600 Klm's of dirt all told finishing up with a last session in Big Desert in Vic.
Mick.
kwh
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beemerbird said:Rode up the tilt tray, braked, and immediately slid rapidly all the way back to the ground, as there was no braking whatsoever!!!!
For reference, next time, you'd probably have slid off backwards even if you had the servos - the front brake tends to just lock the wheel and slide when you are going backwards. You can use the rear brake, or - if you want to keep both feet planted - deliberately stall the engine in gear and use that to stop the rear wheel turning.
I have a very steep driveway that I reverse my bikes down to get them into my garage and even in the wet, I kill the motor and easily reverse down using the clutch as a brake, even on enormous behemoths like the K1200GT. If I try to go down using the front brake alone, it usually slides - and there's a real danger of arriving in the garage under the bike!
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