check your card before you go !!

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On the ferry to Bilbao, I went to change the 256MB CF card with UK maps on it for my 1GB spain/france one, so's I could plan a few routes for when we arrive.

Sh**te ! The Spain / France 1GB card had become wiped since I last used it. I hadn't checked it before leaving, I didn't have a laptop. Nothing at all I could do. Had to use the Atlantic Basemap instead for 2 weeks. This was surprisingly useful, but still, most annoying not to have the detailed stuff.

So, next time, I'm going to check the CF card before I go, and maybe even take a spare preloaded one. Or maybe get a 2 GB card with EVERYTHING on it. And still take a spare.
 
Yea, seems like a good idea to me.

I have a 1Gb card in the 2610 and if I go on a real trip, I take a spare 128 or 256 card with the maps of the destination area, just in case. I haven't needed it yet, but you never know...

Cheers,
Michel
 
Good point, Gasman.

At least the newer GPSRs are headed in the direction of having the entire detailed cartographic database (Europe or North America) preloaded into solid state, non-removable memory. The 2720 I am testing now has 2 gigs of memory on the printed circuit inside of it - there is no door anywhere on the thing - this makes it impossible to ever be without the correct map. In fact, you don't even need to load the maps, they come preloaded from the factory.

Michael
 
Welcome back Michael ! This solid state preloading sounds like a step forward, but, I wonder if it would reduce the flexibility. For example, could you load worldmap; what if the next upgrade (eg CN8 or 9) needs more memory than the 2710 has and would if it got wiped somehow it be easy to reload ? I guess that's why you're testing it.
 
You are not alone !!

gasman said:
On the ferry to Bilbao, I went to change the 256MB CF card with UK maps on it for my 1GB spain/france one, so's I could plan a few routes for when we arrive.

Sh**te ! The Spain / France 1GB card had become wiped since I last used it. I hadn't checked it before leaving, I didn't have a laptop. Nothing at all I could do. Had to use the Atlantic Basemap instead for 2 weeks. This was surprisingly useful, but still, most annoying not to have the detailed stuff.

So, next time, I'm going to check the CF card before I go, and maybe even take a spare preloaded one. Or maybe get a 2 GB card with EVERYTHING on it. And still take a spare.

Gasman

This also happened to me on a European triprecently. I was not the only one either.! What I didn't know was that although I had loaded everything onto my 2Gb CF card that even if you load a single map following this, this further action wipes all the other pre-loaded maps from the card. What I do is check that having loaded the whole Atlantic maps I only then transfer the routes and waypoints from my PC to my 2610.

Hope this helps

Bob
 
gasman said:
Welcome back Michael ! This solid state preloading sounds like a step forward, but, I wonder if it would reduce the flexibility. For example, could you load worldmap; what if the next upgrade (eg CN8 or 9) needs more memory than the 2710 has and would if it got wiped somehow it be easy to reload ?

Very good questions, Gasman.

My 2720 has 2 gigs of memory in it, and it appears that CN Europe NT Version 7 only takes up about 1.3 megs - about 65% of the capacity. That leaves around 600 megs, or 30%, for future growth (allowing 100 megs of slop for speed camera databases, directorys, stuff like that). Personally, I think that should be good for at least two update cycles, in other words, it should take me to CN Europe 9 without any problems. After that - well, I suppose the user could be offered the choice of only loading certain countries at one time, if for example, CN Europe version 14 grows to 2.5 gigs in size total.

I really can't see much need to load other stuff into the memory. CitySelect South Africa is only about 250 megs in total, I'm not sure how big CN Middle East is, but I am going to speculate its not much bigger than CS SouthAfrica. CN North America is huge, of course, but there is more than enough space to load all the places that anyone from Europe would ever choose to visit. If someone wanted to do a '4 corners' ride of the USA, there would not be enough space, but if someone wanted to do that, there would not be much point in them buying the Atlantic model of the GPSR.

I am now using an Atlantic model 2720 (a test unit) - I was using an Americas unit up until the middle of last week. I had all of France, Germany, Switzerland and Benelux loaded into the 'spare capacity' of my Americas unit, so no space problems there. I have suggested to Garmin that they include the Americas basemap in the Atlantic model GPSRs (in other words, that any European spec GPSR come with both the Europe and North America basemap) as a courtesy to European users - this would make it easier for Europeans to use their GPSR in North America. But, basemaps get loaded into a different part of memory than normal maps, whether the GPSR has enough of 'that' kind of memory (whatever it is) available to hold both basemaps, I don't know.

The new CN Europe NT 7 is exactly the same cartography as the existing CN Europe 7, the only difference is that it contains the coding needed to support display of traffic messages that are recieved by FM radio. There is NO, repeat NO change to all the other map info.

As for the preload getting wiped out - as far as I know, this has never happened with any of the 2620 or 2660 units that come preloaded. I suppose that if something really horrible happened (e.g. you passed your GPSR through a MRI scanner or something like that) and the memory got wiped out, Garmin could send you a CD or DVD and an unlock code, and you could re-load the whole mess. But, that is just a guess. Updates to the preloaded units are handled by sending the user a special CD that writes directly to the GPSR.

Michael
 
Michael,
on the subject of "built-in" maps not being wiped my 2610 developed an interesting habit of losing the base-map after being switched on for a few minutes. It is in Mr. Garmin's care as we speak, hopefully to be back to health before my run down to the Italian Lakes and Sardinia
Bigmixer
 


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