extended insured warranty - would you

If the bikes as reliable as the link...go for it

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April Fool still running I think :D

I thought it was about £600 per year for the extended warranty :nenau
 
At £310 I would be tempted - just part exed my 06 GSA and when the dealer put it on their diagnostics machine it came up with a fault with the ABS pump presures. New ABS pump fitted - circa £1300 :eek:
Bike within 24 hours of warranty expiring :D
 
Go for it.....

BM* have recently reduced the price and I think it`s now good value for peace of mind. It`s much better than an alternative insurance warranty even if it`s a few quid more.

I`ll be putting it on mine in September when it`s 2 years old despite it being 100% reliable because I do around 18,000 miles per annum and I will have a failure of something eventually!!
 
works for me too. it's a .pdf file not a web page.


interesting exclusion under terms and conditions.

does not cover: "an insured motorcycle that has been subject to alterations, has had experimental equipment fitted or has in any way been altered from BMW's approved specification"

that's pretty much every GS i've seen then :blast
 
I work on the principle of never taking out an extended warrany on anything. During my (hopefully long and fulfilling) lifetime, I will of course have to pay for some things to be fixed, but in the long-term I believe that I'll save more than I spend. After all, that's how the insurers make their money.
 
Extended Warranty

Go for it-but i thought it was £495.
In my third year i needed a new speedo. binacle,vario top box replacement,
gear-box seal and new clutch. So it was money well spent!
 
works for me too. it's a .pdf file not a web page.


interesting exclusion under terms and conditions.

does not cover: "an insured motorcycle that has been subject to alterations, has had experimental equipment fitted or has in any way been altered from BMW's approved specification"

that's pretty much every GS i've seen then :blast

That exclusion would only be applied (if at all) if the non-BumW item directly (or indirectltly) contributed towards the claim. There may then be a grey area, if the item was fitted by a BuMW dealer and then it went wrong, but that's a different matter.

For instance, to take an extreme example, someone fitting a nitrous oxide injector / supercharger to their 1200 and then claiming for bent valves / broken con rods, might be tricky to get paid.

If you simply fit an aftermarket exhaust system (mine came fitted from the factory, so it's arguably not aftermarket) and the light switches failed, they are not connected.

Otherwise, it would be rather like your house burning down, when you have left the alarm off, with the insurer then trying to refuse to pay. You have, perhaps, broken the alarm warranty but it had no material effect on the fire. Get burgled however and the story may be different, of course.
 
It looks like reasonable value, particularly if it covers European recovery. I do most of my riding outside of the UK and buy AA European Breakdown (which doesn't cover parts or labour costs, mind) so I maight be paying twice, for one small strand of the cover. However, the AA policy also covers me for other vehicles, so I have to buy it anyway. I might also be able to use the AA policy to pay the excess on the BuMW policy or visa-versa.

The BuMW cover is reasonable value at a £1 a day, or there abouts. Of course, you can simply put £300 in the bank each and every year and let it accumulate, but you could be 2 seconds away from the £1500 bill (5 year's savings). Or, perhaps, buy a new bike (free warranty) and forget that you lost more than £300 in depreciation the minute your last bike rolled out of the showroom.
 
I work on the principle of never taking out an extended warrany on anything. During my (hopefully long and fulfilling) lifetime, I will of course have to pay for some things to be fixed, but in the long-term I believe that I'll save more than I spend. After all, that's how the insurers make their money.

That is probably true for simple household consumer goods, TV, Hoover, cooker, fridge etc. and even some more delicate items like PC's and cameras, where the replacement cost may be less than you paid, for a better spec item. Couple that to the simple fact that most kitchens / TV's and PC's are replaced before they die, simply on grounds of style or better spec. Plus the items are in your house and you can, quite possibly, claim for some damage / loss under your vanilla Household policy, loss of frozen food, for instance.

Automotive is different. The labour costs alone, run at what? £50 an hour? Six hours, perhaps, to relace your con rod, plus parts? That's £300 plus parts. Add in transport costs, as Sod's Law dictates that it will happen in Spain, when you live in Aberdeeen......

Of course, you can always cheat and say...I was going to replace the telly anyway.....so discount the cost. This is more tricky with a vehicle.....

Yes the manufacturers charge a premium and most run it through in-house insurance companies. The profitabilty will vary, year-on-year and depend quite a lot on what sort of reinsurance the insurer can buy, but that's a different matter. We have seen some huge (multi-million) claims for automotive recall / guarantee covers, that never make the newspapers.

At over £600 the old BuMW deal looked very pricey....at about £300 it's starting to look not too bad.

It's my guess that the old scheme may have lost BuMW money, the few that bought it, made a claim. By halving the price (and competing with alternative insurers) BuMW possibly hope to get more income (sell at least twice as many policies) and hope that the failure (claims) rate does not rise in proprtion to policies sold.

It may just come down to simple maths, made simpler as BuMW (with a vast database or real claims, not the 'I'm shocked and disgusted' stuff seen here) will know exactly what the likely trend will be.
 
That exclusion would only be applied (if at all) if the non-BumW item directly (or indirectltly) contributed towards the claim.

i imagine that is the case, but that's not what it says, and it's a pretty big get out clause IMO.

it does not appear to be quite the same as a material non disclosure say, in a road policy.
 
i imagine that is the case, but that's not what it says, and it's a pretty big get out clause IMO.

it does not appear to be quite the same as a material non disclosure say, in a road policy.

Of course, it's impossible to be exact, as nobody has - as far as we can see -tried to present a claim, with a modified bike. Couple this to a simple fact that no prudent insurer will ever interpet a policy, on behalf of a policy holder, before the event. Even then, we might have to see what the customer was claiming for, what the modification was, and on what grounds BuMW declined to meet the claim's cost.

The onus of proof would remain with BuMW, who would have to prove that the claim is not covered, not the other way around. Indeed, as it may (I haven't looked*) be an insurance cover, not an open manufatcurer's warranty, the consumer's protection may well be broader, not narrower.

Anyway, and off topic, we are just hearing about a huge jury award in America, in excess of USD 40,000,000........I kid you not.....and another has, apparently, just lost a big meat processing factory up Norf.... it's all go in insurance, today....should stuff the profits for a while.

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*I have now. It's insurance backed, via Mondial Assistance, who are on the whole, pretty relaible. Seems to cover Turkey, too, so that should keep some of the punters happy....
 
The onus of proof would remain with BuMW, who would have to prove that the claim is not covered, not the other way around. Indeed, as it may (I haven't looked) be an insurance cover, not an open manufatcurer's warranty, the consumer's protection may well be broader, not narrower.

why? they specifically exclude any bike that is not BMW spec. right from the off. seems pretty clear cut if they want to enforce it :confused:


and yes, it is an insurance warranty. underwritten by ELVIA travel insurance international N.V.
 
why? they specifically exclude any bike that is not BMW spec. right from the off. seems pretty clear cut if they want to enforce it :confused:


and yes, it is an insurance warranty. underwritten by ELVIA travel insurance international N.V.

It's not clear cut at all....nobody has presented a claim, as I said. Even then, individual circumstances will differ.

If you believe you are going to lose from the off, then the chances are you will lose. However, if you do not lose, then you will (no doubt) be very happy.....However, if you don't win...you will be not too miserable, as you knew the policy wouldn't pay....I am sure there is some mystic religion based on these principles, leading to inner peace and calm....
 


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