Gaming PC - Advice sought

[jimbo]

My 13 year old son wants to buy a 'gaming' PC. I am out of my depth - I lost the plot soon after Galaxians made Space invaders look old hat.
Anybody know if this is a good idea? £489 from http://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk

 

[Fanum]

It's got a nice graphics card in it, but the rest is crap for that money

For 20 quid less, this is better specced in every department..... EDIT....sorry, the GPU in my example is fractionally slower, but that can be upgraded to the same spec in that 20 quid price difference)

I'm debating what route to take to get around my struggling machine at the moment.....For an out of the box fully working machine for good value, the one above is pretty damn good IMO......I might get something like THIS though, which is a 'barebones' high end machine (means it has no hard drives or graphics card in it) then a decent graphics card again from Ebay and I'll shove some Hard drives in that I already have.

 

[JediJase]

Gaming pc

I just built a water cooled i7 4770k quad core rig with 16gig ram, geforce GTX760 graphics card, 250gb ssd, 3TB hdd, full tower case running 3 22" wide screen monitors for £1400.

 

[BD]

This is always a good one to watch,the answers simple "how deep is you pocket",then add some because three months down the line its "dad,its running slow".have fun all

 

[Pukmeister]

I just built a water cooled i7 4770k quad core rig with 16gig ram, geforce GTX760 graphics card, 250gb ssd, 3TB hdd, full tower case running 3 22" wide screen monitors for £1400.

About the same as I paid last year to build a 3rd Gen i7 3770k of similar spec but with 2x2GB Radeon7970's in SLi for my lad. Money well spent as he lives on the thing and its the quickest PC I have ever used, its almost as fast as my Quad i7 MacBook Pro.

 

[RedRick Esq.]

My boy is want ing a gaming PC as well
i have just spoken to my PC builder who offered to build me this for £700


Processor : AMD A10 5800k Black Edition (with two free games apparently). Great gaming processor because it has 4 cores running ay 3.3ghz and very good built in graphics cores. Not as fast as an i7 but does compare well with some i5s.
Motherboard : Biostar A85W, has very good built in sound and some upgrade potential, will allow you to plug two graphics cards in should you wish and take upto 32gb of RAM.
Graphics : As well as the on chip graphics the processor has, you can boost it using a discrete graphics card, XFX AMD 7770 with 1gb DDR5 is a good one to go for and has another free game (apparently).
Cooling : 3 x blue LED 120mm fans and a Coolermaster Heatsink and fan for the processor.
DVDRW : Samsung 24X
Case : AVP Wolverine, a 15yo boys dream of a case.
O/S : Windows 8 64bit.
Power Supply : Be Quiet Pure Power L8 600w.
Monitor : AOC E2461FWH 24" LED.
Gaming keyboars and mouse and 2.1 speakers.

He ended the conversatipon by saying that the next generation X box will be better for less !!

 

[Fanum]

He ended the conversatipon by saying that the next generation X box will be better for less !!

Google the difference between decent gaming PC capabilities and any next gen console......he's incorrect.
EDIT.....just re-read that to myself and I'm wrong, kind of....
For the price of a next gen console, you can only just match the performance....that's mainly because consoles are steeply discounted and they make their money back from game licensing....a decent PC will be WAY better in performance though.

Have a look at Tomshardware.com for comparisons of GPUs (Graphics cards) and CPUs (the core processor that the PC is actually built around.

The £700 that this spec you've been quoted for is really quite high, but if the local contact and backup is worth the 200 or so quid that it's costing you, it may be worth it to you for peace of mind

I used to build PCs and concentrated in gaming stuff.....there used to be a white box kit supplier in Romford that I used a lot (branded parts but sold in bulk in plain white boxes, about 40% cheaper than retail boxed items) but in the mid-late 90's it became impossible to beat the big suppliers....I could walk into a Tesco or Aldi and buy a Medion PC (a good brand but budget image) and buy an off the shelf unit for a hundred quid less than I could actually build it for

Good luck to the small indies still trying to build PCs, but even though I've built dozens and know where to get bits from, if/when I buy my next one, it will be from one of the mass suppliers

 

[RedRick Esq.]

Google the difference between decent gaming PC capabilities and any next gen console......he's incorrect.
EDIT.....just re-read that to myself and I'm wrong, kind of....
For the price of a next gen console, you can only just match the performance....that's mainly because consoles are steeply discounted and they make their money back from game licensing....a decent PC will be WAY better in performance though.

Have a look at Tomshardware.com for comparisons of GPUs (Graphics cards) and CPUs (the core processor that the PC is actually built around.

The £700 that this spec you've been quoted for is really quite high, but if the local contact and backup is worth the 200 or so quid that it's costing you, it may be worth it to you for peace of mind

I used to build PCs and concentrated in gaming stuff.....there used to be a white box kit supplier in Romford that I used a lot (branded parts but sold in bulk in plain white boxes, about 40% cheaper than retail boxed items) but in the mid-late 90's it became impossible to beat the big suppliers....I could walk into a Tesco or Aldi and buy a Medion PC (a good brand but budget image) and buy an off the shelf unit for a hundred quid less than I could actually build it for

Good luck to the small indies still trying to build PCs, but even though I've built dozens and know where to get bits from, if/when I buy my next one, it will be from one of the mass suppliers

I think he actually meant for the money !

the spec on the one quoted i have corroborated his prices on e Buyer and he is pretty much making no money or he is getting the parts a great deal cheaper!
He actually gave up building computers for a living many years ago and builds ours now as a favour
any way it has become an obsolete plan as i am not paying that on a whim for a 15 year old just cos he fancies one

 

[Fanum]

I think he actually meant for the money !

the spec on the one quoted i have corroborated his prices on e Buyer and he is pretty much making no money or he is getting the parts a great deal cheaper!
He actually gave up building computers for a living many years ago and builds ours now as a favour
any way it has become an obsolete plan as i am not paying that on a whim for a 15 year old just cos he fancies one

Yep.....i edited, but too late

 

[RedRick Esq.]

Yep.....i edited, but too late

No worries

it might be worth it in hindsight to get the littele (used guardedly as he is over 6 feet now) bugger off my Mac