Helmet standards ACU/ECE R 22/05 ????

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I'm looking for a bit of help understanding the different safety standards:confused:
My current helmet is the BMW enduro one which conforms to ECE R 22/05 what ever that is :confused:Is this good or bad ?

It doesn't have a gold ACU sticker can i get one for it so i can wear it for an enduro or rallye ?

Any help would be appreciated and piss taking is welcomed :D
 
As far as I understand the ECE is a european wide standard that replaced the old BS system we used to have (and many think was a far superior standard) and if the helmet has a GOLD ACU sticker this meant that the helmet manufacturer has submitted the specs or gave the ACU helmet to test, so they can claim it meets there standards.

HTH
 
roddy said:
As far as I understand the ECE is a european wide standard that replaced the old BS system we used to have (and many think was a far superior standard) and if the helmet has a GOLD ACU sticker this meant that the helmet manufacturer has submitted the specs or gave the ACU helmet to test, so they can claim it meets there standards.

HTH
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If BMW had gave one for testing it would of came with a sticker then.Seems daft if they haven't all the bmw factory riders wear them :(
 
roddy said:
As far as I understand the ECE is a european wide standard that replaced the old BS system we used to have (and many think was a far superior standard) and if the helmet has a GOLD ACU sticker this meant that the helmet manufacturer has submitted the specs or gave the ACU helmet to test, so they can claim it meets there standards.

HTH
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I seem to remember some controversy in MCN recently, the ACU have been selling their gold stickers, so they ain't worth nothing :spitfire there wasn't any testing

We've been getting conned by the ACU for a while but I suppose it all makes sense now when you see the quality of helmets that have stickers on them

In terms of the EC testing for helmets, I thought concerns were expressed about it because it didn't cover all the different points and types of impact a biker could experience (same as Euro NCAP testing for cars doesn't do a test for a fairly common impact (so I read anyway)

I buy helmets according to one standard today, who was the last person to headbutt some armco and walk away from it....Arai and Shoei it is.....:thumb
 
I was always under the impression that the ACU sticker was a road only requirement ?,

maybe the rallye organisers are asking for this standard since you can get off-road helmets that are for off-road use only and are illegal on the road, and this is an easy way for the organisers to know the competitors are wearing safety kit to a "good" standard, if you can show your helmet meets european standards I don't see how they could object ? maybe thats how BMW get by it or they make special helmets for there team members would be the first time this has happened.

cheers
 
thanks for all your help i'll look into sending it to Rugby :thumb
 
forry said:
thanks for all your help i'll look into sending it to Rugby :thumb
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Better still, get in touch with your nearest ACU Scrutineer via the ACU - http://www.acu.org.uk/

You can then probably arrange to meet up with him at the next competition which he's scrutineering and where he can inspect your helmet and fit a Gold ACU sticker to it if it meets the ACU requirements.

Yes, I have been there and done this, albeit with an SACU scrutineer.
 
Schtum said:
Better still, get in touch with your nearest ACU Scrutineer via the ACU - http://www.acu.org.uk/

You can then probably arrange to meet up with him at the next competition which he's scrutineering and where he can inspect your helmet and fit a Gold ACU sticker to it if it meets the ACU requirements.

Yes, I have been there and done this, albeit with an SACU scrutineer.
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Cheers Mate i'll take a look :thumb2
 
Forry,

Just read in the BMW mag that the Enduro helmet has ACU accreditation and all you need to do is visit the local BMW dealer who will check the condition of the helmet and if it's okay will give you the stickers.

HTH
 
roddy said:
Forry,

Just read in the BMW mag that the Enduro helmet has ACU accreditation and all you need to do is visit the local BMW dealer who will check the condition of the helmet and if it's okay will give you the stickers.

HTH
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Cheers Mate :thumb2
 
I have just been loaned a new one of these Nolan N43 Air helmets for taking away with me on the BMW offroad skills course in a few weeks. The course requirements say the helmet should meet ECU 22/05.

www.thebikerstore.co.uk/Nolan-N43-Air-Classic-N-Com-Black_ANG6U.aspx

But the helmet does not appear to have any obvious proof of certification like the stickers i have on my Arai.

Does anybody know of any other markings that i should be looking for on this thing?

thanks very much
 
All helmets sold in the uk must now conform to ECE 22-05 (there can't be any British standard ones left)

That applies to Europe too.

So - It makes me wonder what market your helmet was produced for.

Government regulations

You can, it appear - wear a USA standard helmet (like Arai RX-7) as Arai only make one version of each model.

Al
 
So maybe it is just a case of, as they all conform to this standard as a minimum they don't actually need to have the markings anymore :nenau

I just thought, that as it is effectively a open face helmet with a removable chin bar, this may have had something to do with it.

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From looking at your link, the EC mark will be shown just the letter 'E' and the code will be pre-fixed by a 05. This helmet is marked E3 in a circle along with 0525007/P/J on it's strap. So this must be the corrcet markings, whereas i thought it would just say EC22/05 on a sticker.
 
Stujw70 said:
So maybe it is just a case of, as they all conform to this standard as a minimum they don't actually need to have the markings anymore :nenau

I just thought, that as it is effectively a open face helmet with a removable chin bar, this may have had something to do with it.

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From looking at your link, the EC mark will be shown just the letter 'E' and the code will be pre-fixed by a 05. This helmet is marked E3 in a circle along with 0525007/P/J on it's strap. So this must be the corrcet markings, whereas i thought it would just say EC22/05 on a sticker.
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I thought EC 22/05 was what was labeled?

Any helmet "commercially sold" in UK must have EC22/05 standard met, and be marked accordingly. What I meant about Arai is that they make one helmet model that without alteration - exceeds all the worlds standards - JPN, USA, EU - so even if it is marked SNELL (USA) it is legal in UK.

Al :thumb2
 
Well i thought it would be stickered aswell, but just found this answer on the Nolan website Q&A section

Is the Nolan helmet with N-Com activated safe?
Nolan N-Com helmets have received ECE 22-05 standard approval (currently in force in Europe) including when the N-Com system is activated. Nolan helmets therefore comply with legislative requirements, even when they are equipped with one of the N-Com communication systems.
 
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