HIDs - yes or no?

Agree with your point on the aux lights...I have the LED upgrade which certainly increases visibility without giving oncoming drivers a sun tan.
 
The Beemer also keeps dipped beam on with high beam - given the inherent delay with HID you wouldn't want it any other way! Its for that one reason (the delay) that I've removed the HID from my hi beam and spots.

how the hell does refitting a halogen main help? turn that on over an HID dip and it will make fuck all difference, rather like an HID dip while it warms up, which doesn't take more than a second or so, and it's only really an issue the first time it's used anyway :eek
 
how the hell does refitting a halogen main help? turn that on over an HID dip and it will make fuck all difference, rather like an HID dip while it warms up, which doesn't take more than a second or so, and it's only really an issue the first time it's used anyway :eek

The new fast ballasts from Les don't even take that long, so I agree. Even with the delay, it really makes a big difference having hid main beam. I have also fitted some nuclear powered led spots and now I can ride night time like it's the middle of the day. I have ff50s and micro de fogs on my last GS, my micro de's have now been butchered to be led markers and there is no need for all the bulk of the ff50s. My led spots are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the ff50s ever we're and half the size.

The biggest mistake with hid is choosing 6k bulbs. 4600 or 5k give a far truer white light without the blue tint. It makes them less annoying to other road users, plus the whiter light of the lower kelvin bulbs actually reaches further and gives a better quality of illumination. Never had an mot issue and I've run hids for 5 years or more.
 
how the hell does refitting a halogen main help? turn that on over an HID dip and it will make fuck all difference, rather like an HID dip while it warms up, which doesn't take more than a second or so, and it's only really an issue the first time it's used anyway :eek

The OEM main beam is made redundant with the FF50 spots I have fitted with or without HID. I have had standard and fast ballasts fitted and tried in all the combinations so I know the difference between the two and neither are fast enough for me. I can't be arsed to remember to keep turning them on (when I don't need them) so when I do need them they light up quickly. They don't hold their "charge" long enough. If its fast enough for you then that's just swell but they're not fast enough for me.
 
The OEM main beam is made redundant with the FF50 spots I have fitted with or without HID. I have had standard and fast ballasts fitted and tried in all the combinations so I know the difference between the two and neither are fast enough for me. I can't be arsed to remember to keep turning them on (when I don't need them) so when I do need them they light up quickly. They don't hold their "charge" long enough. If its fast enough for you then that's just swell but they're not fast enough for me.

fair enough, each to his own, but i still don't understand your logic that nothing is better than slow.
 
The OEM main beam is made redundant with the FF50 spots I have fitted with or without HID. I have had standard and fast ballasts fitted and tried in all the combinations so I know the difference between the two and neither are fast enough for me. I can't be arsed to remember to keep turning them on (when I don't need them) so when I do need them they light up quickly. They don't hold their "charge" long enough. If its fast enough for you then that's just swell but they're not fast enough for me.

Hid main beam has a further reach than ff50s, but the ff50s have a better spread. My set up gives huge light output, but still benefits from the ultimate distance offered by the hid.
I have run vast array of set ups, my current one is by far the best light set up without spending stupid money.
 
fair enough, each to his own, but i still don't understand your logic that nothing is better than slow.

The OEM main beam on my 1200 is useless. 2 x FF50's even if only halogen do a better job. And having tried the FF50's with 50w HID's I agree they are great lights but I prefer an instant response that I can rely on rather than guess at.
 
Not on my 1200 - the OEM main beam is useless with or without HID. Dip beam with HID is fantastic though.
Don't confuse distance with spread. The spread of the main beam has been an ongoing downfall off the GS. However, the pencil type beam still gives distance, just not a good spread. I use led spots because of their spread and they still give very good distance, but they still benefit from an hid main even though it is nothing more than a football sized blob right in front of the rider. I ride an 1150, which has a shite main beam, I doubt the 1200 could be worse. Only way to really tell is to test all set ups.
Here's a example of my led spots http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTcCxoTvzQ&desktop_uri=/watch?v=fUTcCxoTvzQ
 
Don't confuse distance with spread. The spread of the main beam has been an ongoing downfall off the GS. However, the pencil type beam still gives distance, just not a good spread. I use led spots because of their spread and they still give very good distance, but they still benefit from an hid main even though it is nothing more than a football sized blob right in front of the rider. I ride an 1150, which has a shite main beam, I doubt the 1200 could be worse. Only way to really tell is to test all set ups.
Here's a example of my led spots http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTcCxoTvzQ&desktop_uri=/watch?v=fUTcCxoTvzQ

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Don't confuse distance with spread. The spread of the main beam has been an ongoing downfall off the GS. However, the pencil type beam still gives distance, just not a good spread. I use led spots because of their spread and they still give very good distance, but they still benefit from an hid main even though it is nothing more than a football sized blob right in front of the rider. I ride an 1150, which has a shite main beam, I doubt the 1200 could be worse. Only way to really tell is to test all set ups.
Here's a example of my led spots http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTcCxoTvzQ&desktop_uri=/watch?v=fUTcCxoTvzQ

Thats an amazing amount of light....
 


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