Well 5 of us are planning this trip, anyone got and thoughts on the route, distances per day etc?
https://www.motogoloco.com/map?route=346
Thanks
https://www.motogoloco.com/map?route=346
Thanks
June 2014 route - thoughts/advice?
- Thread starter Scutty
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How far do the five of you usually ride / expect to ride, each day? That's one of your questions answered.
Bumpkin
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I plan my trips on the following approximate assumptions.
If you're camping allow extra time for pitching and taking down of tents. Ideally aim to arrive at your hotel no later than 6pm so you can shower and find somewhere nice to eat. If camping 5:30pm.
I suppose I could do higher miles than the above but I'm on holiday, not in a rush. I want to stop for a nice lunch and a few photos along the way. As you're in a group the stops will be a social thing so will probably take a bit longer. The past couple of years it's been a bunch of 6 of us, this year it's just me and my best mate riding West to East along the Pyrenees the back up through France.
Quite literally, your mileage could vary
BTW, your route didn't seem to display. It showed what looked like a series of way-points from Western Germany, down though the Black Forest, Switzerland and the Italian and French Alps. Looks like fun. Geneva to Nice should take you two days doing the 'route des grande alps'. If you haven't looked at, or done it before, you might like to consider the Vosges Mountains rather than the Black Forest, I prefer the former myself.
- Off the beaten track, i.e. no autoroutes and mainly French D roads, but the odd section of N to maybe link sections, I aim for 200-250 miles/day.
- Get into mountainous terrain, or a mix of lesser classified roads, and that can drop to 150-200 miles/day. Get onto seriously minor roads then reduce this even further.
- On 'just get there' days, where you're getting miles under your tyres, using a mix of autoroute and N roads 300-350 miles a day but for 2 days max as it can be fatiguing. These are usually at the beginning or end of a trip getting away from, or to, ports.
If you're camping allow extra time for pitching and taking down of tents. Ideally aim to arrive at your hotel no later than 6pm so you can shower and find somewhere nice to eat. If camping 5:30pm.
I suppose I could do higher miles than the above but I'm on holiday, not in a rush. I want to stop for a nice lunch and a few photos along the way. As you're in a group the stops will be a social thing so will probably take a bit longer. The past couple of years it's been a bunch of 6 of us, this year it's just me and my best mate riding West to East along the Pyrenees the back up through France.
Quite literally, your mileage could vary
BTW, your route didn't seem to display. It showed what looked like a series of way-points from Western Germany, down though the Black Forest, Switzerland and the Italian and French Alps. Looks like fun. Geneva to Nice should take you two days doing the 'route des grande alps'. If you haven't looked at, or done it before, you might like to consider the Vosges Mountains rather than the Black Forest, I prefer the former myself.
Scutty,
The post above says it all, really.
If you want some more help, beyond what you and your four mates can work out between you, you'll have to give us a bit more material to work with.
Start with:
1. A route. MotoGoLoco 2014 Euro Blast, is a wacky name mate, but if it's just a series of flags it's about as much use as tits on a bull.
2. Your time away, from the moment you arrive at (apparently) Calais, to the moment you (apparently) need to get back there to cross the Channel back to Blighty, matey.
3. Do you intend to stay anywhere en-route? By stay, I mean, spend a day or two off the steeds taking in the local flora and fauna? I only ask as we sometimes discover that a bod HAS to be in St Ulph du Perdue for three days to see his mate's cousin's sister's dog, which removes 72 hours out of his five days away at a stroke and rather scuppers his plans to ride every awesome twisty road for a thousand miles (some of them twice) and still be stopping for lunch for two hours. This vital missing ingredient is usually only revealed AFTER other helpful fellows have suggested taking in the D Day beaches, the Millau Bridge AND Bastogne AND some wrecked village few people can spell, let alone locate on a map, not forgetting the awesome Umbral, usually in March when it's covered in ice.
4. In short mate, give us a feckin' clue!
The post above says it all, really.
If you want some more help, beyond what you and your four mates can work out between you, you'll have to give us a bit more material to work with.
Start with:
1. A route. MotoGoLoco 2014 Euro Blast, is a wacky name mate, but if it's just a series of flags it's about as much use as tits on a bull.
2. Your time away, from the moment you arrive at (apparently) Calais, to the moment you (apparently) need to get back there to cross the Channel back to Blighty, matey.
3. Do you intend to stay anywhere en-route? By stay, I mean, spend a day or two off the steeds taking in the local flora and fauna? I only ask as we sometimes discover that a bod HAS to be in St Ulph du Perdue for three days to see his mate's cousin's sister's dog, which removes 72 hours out of his five days away at a stroke and rather scuppers his plans to ride every awesome twisty road for a thousand miles (some of them twice) and still be stopping for lunch for two hours. This vital missing ingredient is usually only revealed AFTER other helpful fellows have suggested taking in the D Day beaches, the Millau Bridge AND Bastogne AND some wrecked village few people can spell, let alone locate on a map, not forgetting the awesome Umbral, usually in March when it's covered in ice.
4. In short mate, give us a feckin' clue!
What bumpkin said.
Plus with 5 bikes allow extra stop time, assuming your not special forces bods with synchronized watches and a liking for split second execution of plans.
This means trying to set some rules and excepting everyone will assume they only apply to the others.
This means your quick fuel stops will take half hour as people get coffee, order food, go for a piss etc......
Then 10 miles later one will point at his tank having decided he was OK on fuel at the last stop but now is worried as another bar dropped on his gauge.
As soon as he has filled up at the next gas station the others will be stood with hot drinks, awaiting a food order or smoking a fag.
Plus with 5 bikes allow extra stop time, assuming your not special forces bods with synchronized watches and a liking for split second execution of plans.
This means trying to set some rules and excepting everyone will assume they only apply to the others.
This means your quick fuel stops will take half hour as people get coffee, order food, go for a piss etc......
Then 10 miles later one will point at his tank having decided he was OK on fuel at the last stop but now is worried as another bar dropped on his gauge.
As soon as he has filled up at the next gas station the others will be stood with hot drinks, awaiting a food order or smoking a fag.
And no matter how many times you stress the importance of sticking together, especially in built up areas, you will be as frustrated as hell when every time you accelerate at the front you see your mates disappearing off the back, and you then have to slow to a stop at the next junction/turn because they haven't a map or sat nav
Bumpkin
Registered user
Depending on the mixture of abilities/pace in your group 5 riders is borderline for a case of using the Drop off System. Might seem like overkill but it worked well the past couple of years with a group of six. Needs two with sat nav (leader and TEC) and it would help if the lead rider had a mobile connected to an intercom. A decent PMR setup for both even better, Bluetooth headsets on bike-to-bike mode haven't got the range for this task. If that's all not your style then fine, you just have to accept the stop start nature of keeping everyone, or at least the rider behind, in view.
Depending on the mix of riders using the DoS, a small group means that the lead will occasionally have to stop every now and then to allow a marker to catch up. However, the fluid nature of the system does make for efficient progress.
Good point that it's important for all to brim their tank at fill ups. Doubling up with a fuel buddy at pumps and rotating who pays also saves time, not just at the pump but at the counter as well.
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