Let’s not cancel Nelson

Posh Pete said:
Exactly. This kind of wind up journalism/false history is the bane of the media.

I watched 5 minutes of a prog on C4 last night before switching it off. Not because of any intrinsic problem with the content (segregation of black US troops in WW2 and resulting violence) but because of the way it was delivered by a young black woman (all good) who made statements designed to provoke angry argument rather than informed understanding.

For example, she said or implied re Churchill that he would have been surprised to see her (a black woman) presenting a TV programme. Now Churchill's racial beliefs and prejudices are worthy of a programme to themselves and should not be crudely written off in such a manner.

So the problem is not "cancel culture" it's the dumbing down of the media which wants to simplify complex issues and boil them down to the level of memes on X or Facebook.
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Watched that last night and it delivered a bit milder than expected; the telling point for me was when she was telling how rare it was to see a black person at that time because they were so few;; compleatly opposite to what BLM and other race griffters would have us believe;; priceless; :D . The country was full of coloureds until photography was invented when they all seem to have disappeared for some reason; only to resurface in a big Grifft from the mid sixties on;
 
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Not quite like pickle night, but close enough.

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Enjoy live music, traditional sea shanties, and raucous storytelling as you dine like the crew on authentic mess tables. Join Martin Jakeman of Martin's Heritage World as your Master of Arms as he leads the evening's frivolities but be warned - don't get caught breaking the rules of etiquette...
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er-minio said:
As usual, I’d like to remind y’all that we colonised Dacia.

You’re welcome.
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Thanks...One fucked up grammar: three genders (masculine, feminine and neuter🌈) and 11 conjugation classes just to make my life miserable. :pullface
 
Pukmeister said:
If the woke, white shaming anti-slavery brigade want to deface or remove Nelson, perhaps they should read up on the Royal Navy’s involvement in defeating the slave trade.


Chasing Freedom: the Royal Navy and the suppression of the transatlantic slave trade, an exhibition review

A review of the exhibition 'Chasing Freedom: the Royal Navy and the suppression of the transatlantic slave trade', from 1807 Commemorated: the Institute of Historical Research and the Institute for the Public Understanding of the Past, University of York
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Dont be silly. That would include a degree of common sense
 
Captain jack said:
Dont be silly. That would include a degree of common sense
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No it's not. It's mostly not true.

It's not "white shaming" to acknowledge that the British empire in the Carribbean was built on the brutality of slavery. That's just historical fact. Nor is anyone suggesting we be ashamed but it would be good if people acknowledged the reality rather than try to deny it.

Nor is there any "anti slavery brigade". Unless he's getting confused with the anti slavery movement of the time which certainly deserves great credit for helping to bring slavery to an end after nearly 50 years of trying.

Saying that, it did not do the ex slaves much good as they were converted into poverty wage labourers and indentured servants while their former owners trousered millions in compensation.

For half of it's existence the RNs anti slave trade patrol was effectively acting as a protection for British slave owners from competition from other colonial powers who had not banned the trade. After 1833 when slavery itself was banned in our colonies, it was acting to protect the same interests of the former slave owners against slave economies in Brazil etc.

So two cheers for Britain for leading the way but let's not kid ourselves that it was totally selfless or (except for a very few evangelical Christians) intended mainly for the benefit of the slaves.
 
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Trafalgar .........

Every time I visit my friend's house in the Czech Republic I think of it.

Built in the same year (y)

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Posh Pete said:
Lovely house Bob. I'm struggling with the German script. The corn around 40 something? A bible quote or a German saying maybe?
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Yes I know Peter. It's in the Sudetenland and the knowledge of the inscription may have died with her grandfather (lovely man who always spoke German to me) - fair hair when I had some. :D

The house was restored by the grandfather and continued with my friend's father. He put in a Heat Pump etc. so quite modern inside.

Yes - some house. About 50 Km from Dresden beside the River Elbe (Labe in Czech)
 
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This is the sort of cultural vacuum where the brexit'ards piss me off. :D:D:D

They haven't got a fuc*ing clue. So ignorant. :fiddle


One for the Captain. (y)
 
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